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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Is it possible for a 02 sensor to drastically effect gas mileage without throwing any codes? Thanks in advance.
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Oh yes, very much so.
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How would you know its giving a problem if it not throwing codes?
Ive been fighting with my 96 on milage recently ... and one of the things that i thought about was sensors .. but it seems to run fine ... and was throwing no codes.


Anyone know what the we should be seeing in autotap to confirm a known good stock engine reading?
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How would you know its giving a problem if it not throwing codes?
Ive been fighting with my 96 on milage recently ... and one of the things that i thought about was sensors .. but it seems to run fine ... and was throwing no codes.


Anyone know what the we should be seeing in autotap to confirm a known good stock engine reading?
Its kind of hard to catch even with a scan tool unless its very obvious. As long as the sensor is switching from low to high a typical OBD1 or pre OBD1 ECM will not throw codes. This means that the sensor can be lazy but still work and as far as the ECM is concerned its happy as well. But the fuel economy can suffer because of a lazy sensor. In the newer OBD2 PCM strategy there are constants that look at O2 sensor switching, and if the frequency of this switching doesn't occur within a set of set parameters then the PCM will flag it.

In AutoTap or some other more advanced scan tools you can graph the o2 sensor activity. If you have two sensors and all OBD2 and most OBD1 compliant strategy PCMs do, you can overly that two sensor graphs on top of each other so you can compare them. If one sensor is lazy you can see it.
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Only way you'll know is by the gas mileage, to tell the truth.
Mine dropped to 20-22 hwy, and then I replaced it because as far as i knew it was the original O2 sensor, afterwards it was 24-25 hwy.
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Hi.

Yeah my 86 is getting bad on mileage too and seems to b running real rich. I`ve also noticed its now real sluggish at moderate part throttle - like say 3/4 throttle, compared to full throttle. No codes either.

Are those universal o2 sensors just as good or do i need an original equipment one?
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I would get OE type or cross reference to OE match in Denso brand name. Denso O2 sensors are supposed to be the schiznit. There's a product review on Denso O2's in the forum reviews section, or at least there used to be.

Edit: Here's the link to the forum member submitted product review on Denso Oxygen Sensors for Corvette application. He used them in his ZR1:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/revi...7&cat=2&page=5

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P.S. to anyone who is going to change out O2's on an LT1 and maybe this applies to L98's too, I don't know. I found the best tool for the job to be the Craftsman 7/8" Stubby Wrench. You cna get on the driver side O2 with a standard length 7/8" wrench, but the passenger side one, at least on an LT1 or LT4, you need the shorter stubby length wrench to clear obstacles or else you can't get enough turn on it. W/ the stubby you can turn it about 1/3 or 1/4 turn at a time.

This is working underneath the car with the wheels up on ramps, etc. can't get to the O2's from above (LT1, LT4)

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I put in new O2 sensors a few weeks ago when I put in headers and the mpg went from about 12 city to 14-15. I havent done much highway driving since then but it was getting about 24 highway.
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