Differences between Cloyes timing chains
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Differences between Cloyes timing chains
Doing a search on the forum yielded more than one part number, so before I ordered the wrong one, I thought I'd ask. Which Cloyes double-roller timing chain do I need for a Meizere HD electric water pump?
9-3145 $80
9-3151 $350
9-3157 $90
9-3145 $80
9-3151 $350
9-3157 $90
Last edited by TM-Z06; Oct 3, 2005 at 02:37 PM.
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Use the 9-3145. But before you final assemble/silicone the timing cover to the block, turn the motor over several times to see if the chain rubs on the inside of the cover. Clearance the cover if necessary (it is usually the roller pins extending beyond the chain links that rub around the cam sprocket area on an LT1). Use a cut-off wheel on a straight die grinder (or air grinder) and walk it around in a circle.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
Doing a search on the forum yielded more than one part number, so before I ordered the wrong one, I thought I'd ask. Which Cloyes double-roller timing chain do I need for a Meizere HD electric water pump?
9-3145 $80
9-3151 $350
9-3157 $90
9-3145 $80
9-3151 $350
9-3157 $90
Good question. I've got a 95 LT-1 and will be installing a Meizere (std) EWP. I figured as long as I was up on that end of the car I might as well eliminate the additional weight from the Cam sproket gear and buy a complete new set (no LT4 HD). Cloyes seemed to be correct choice
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Originally Posted by gslotman
Good question. I've got a 95 LT-1 and will be installing a Meizere (std) EWP. I figured as long as I was up on that end of the car I might as well eliminate the additional weight from the Cam sproket gear and buy a complete new set (no LT4 HD). Cloyes seemed to be correct choice
for Cam/Crank and chain.........I am all
for Cam/Crank and chain.........I am all
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
Doing a search on the forum yielded more than one part number, so before I ordered the wrong one, I thought I'd ask. Which Cloyes double-roller timing chain do I need for a Meizere HD electric water pump?
9-3145 $80
9-3151 $350
9-3157 $90
9-3145 $80
9-3151 $350
9-3157 $90
Also, when ordering from Cloyes, do NOT get the 9-3145A, that timing set will not work, only the 9-3145!
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
I'm not 100% certain. But, you may have a problem running a Cloyes DR on a 96 with the reluctor ring.
OMG!!! I sure dont want to hear that. I checked out Summit Racing, and 9-3145 did not match my car. However, 9-3157 was a match so I ordered it.CLO-9-3157
Make CHEVROLET
Engine Type V8
CID 350
Liter 5.7
Engine Size 5.7L/350
Beginning Year 1992
Ending Year 1997
Engine Family Chevy small block Gen II (LT-based engines)
Notes: Requires the use of an eletric water pump for installation.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
OMG!!! I sure dont want to hear that. I checked out Summit Racing, and 9-3145 did not match my car. However, 9-3157 was a match so I ordered it.CLO-9-3157
Make CHEVROLET
Engine Type V8
CID 350
Liter 5.7
Engine Size 5.7L/350
Beginning Year 1992
Ending Year 1997
Engine Family Chevy small block Gen II (LT-based engines)
Notes: Requires the use of an eletric water pump for installation.
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Originally Posted by Zix
Odd, I'm not seeing that part number in the Cloyes catalog?
From Summit Racing
Tell me what you think.....
Last edited by TM-Z06; Oct 3, 2005 at 06:34 PM.
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I think you need another timing chain. THe only option you have if you want to keep the reluctor ring and CPS other then stock is the HD LT4 set as far I as I know. Some one did some crafytu machine work a while back and was able to get the reluctor ring to work with a standard DR timing set but it was a lot of work from what I remember.
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Originally Posted by FD2BLK
I think you need another timing chain. THe only option you have if you want to keep the reluctor ring and CPS other then stock is the HD LT4 set as far I as I know. Some one did some crafytu machine work a while back and was able to get the reluctor ring to work with a standard DR timing set but it was a lot of work from what I remember.
If my guy can't get this Cloyes to work, then I'll have to order the GM unit.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
If my guy can't get this Cloyes to work, then I'll have to order the GM unit.
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Originally Posted by Zix
If you want the double roller and you can't get that one to work, just order the 9-3145, that is what I am running in my LT4
I wonder why Summit Racing's website does not show 9-3145 as a match for the GenII (LTx) engine?
CLO-9-3145
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Great thread I was getting ready to ask this question!!
This means I can buy an electric water pump and timing chain for about the same money I did not spend on the Kent Moore harmonic balancer puller!
This means I can buy an electric water pump and timing chain for about the same money I did not spend on the Kent Moore harmonic balancer puller!
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Yep, I am running the Mez HD electric pump.
Well, Summit might not show it because it really isn't a perfect fit because you do need to remove the crank sensor for it to fit. Cloyes lists the 9-3145 as a fit for '85 and up roller blocks...not specifically for the LT1.
Well, Summit might not show it because it really isn't a perfect fit because you do need to remove the crank sensor for it to fit. Cloyes lists the 9-3145 as a fit for '85 and up roller blocks...not specifically for the LT1.
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Originally Posted by Zix
Yep, I am running the Mez HD electric pump.
Well, Summit might not show it because it really isn't a perfect fit because you do need to remove the crank sensor for it to fit. Cloyes lists the 9-3145 as a fit for '85 and up roller blocks...not specifically for the LT1.
Well, Summit might not show it because it really isn't a perfect fit because you do need to remove the crank sensor for it to fit. Cloyes lists the 9-3145 as a fit for '85 and up roller blocks...not specifically for the LT1.
Hmm - if that's the case.... 9-3157 should work for me - since it's supposed to be designed for the LTx motor.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
Hmm - if that's the case.... 9-3157 should work for me - since it's supposed to be designed for the LTx motor.
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Originally Posted by Baldturbofreak
I used the cloyes billet hex adjust for 86+ blocks with no problems
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
OMG!!! I sure dont want to hear that. I checked out Summit Racing, and 9-3145 did not match my car. However, 9-3157 was a match so I ordered it.CLO-9-3157
Make CHEVROLET
Engine Type V8
CID 350
Liter 5.7
Engine Size 5.7L/350
Beginning Year 1992
Ending Year 1997
Engine Family Chevy small block Gen II (LT-based engines)
Notes: Requires the use of an eletric water pump for installation.