Throttle body clearance issue....HELP!!!!
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Throttle body clearance issue....HELP!!!!
I got an intake made from a fellow forum member. I was installing it on my car this weekend to test fit everything. I bolted the plenum to the top of the carb mounting, then tried to bolt on the throttle body. The throttle body interferes with the thermostat housing and the bolts are about a quarter to a half inch from lining up. Is there anything I can do about this???
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Originally Posted by Billdavis83
I got an intake made from a fellow forum member. I was installing it on my car this weekend to test fit everything. I bolted the plenum to the top of the carb mounting, then tried to bolt on the throttle body. The throttle body interferes with the thermostat housing and the bolts are about a quarter to a half inch from lining up. Is there anything I can do about this???
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"I got an intake made from a fellow forum member"
More info?
What manifold?
"I bolted the plenum to the top of the carb mounting"/
Is this a carb manifold adated to EFI?
If the TB is too low then maybe someone screwed up when they made it.
Could possibly use a carb spacer to raise plenum if this is the case.
More info?
What manifold?
"I bolted the plenum to the top of the carb mounting"/
Is this a carb manifold adated to EFI?
If the TB is too low then maybe someone screwed up when they made it.
Could possibly use a carb spacer to raise plenum if this is the case.
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What manifold ? It sounds almost like you are descibing a single plane set-up. If it is, I seem to remember jburnett using a spacer in there.
So I am not sure what you mean, are you sure it is the IAC ? but if you are talking about the part of the TB that is touching, is the coolant line area to the side of the IAC. then it may have been set-up fot that to be deleted. On a mini ram there is not enough room so I have those cut-off entirely and the only thing left down there on the TB is the iac and the part of the casting that encapsulates the IAC. That's what was necessary to clear thermostat housing.
So I am not sure what you mean, are you sure it is the IAC ? but if you are talking about the part of the TB that is touching, is the coolant line area to the side of the IAC. then it may have been set-up fot that to be deleted. On a mini ram there is not enough room so I have those cut-off entirely and the only thing left down there on the TB is the iac and the part of the casting that encapsulates the IAC. That's what was necessary to clear thermostat housing.
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Yeah that's it... I finally have a digi cam now , (gift) but part is on and a bit hard to see.Dan, you as always have some great shots to go along w/description! How's your part hunting/p.coating and project going?
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Originally Posted by mseven
Yeah that's it... I finally have a digi cam now , (gift) but part is on and a bit hard to see.Dan, you as always have some great shots to go along w/description! How's your part hunting/p.coating and project going?
Too f'n slow. I'm still working on the "honey do list" This list has grown over the last 3 years due to some yellow thing in the driveway
I'm hoping to get going full tilt in feb.
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Yeah, Burnett made my intake, from a super victor. I am not sure there is enough hood clearance to run a carb spacer under the plenum. I thought it was the bottom bulge on the IAC housing that was touching, but I could be wrong. What all do you have to do to eliminate the coolant line area?
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First of I would contact him about the spacer I am sure he knows hood clearances to a TEE ! I thought he was using about a 3/8' spacer or so.
To answer your question the mod. is easy, I cut it w/a grinding wheel, a dremel, w/some cut off discs (roughed it in) and them finished the edge w/ a sanding drum (dremel part). tape up the IAC as to not get crud in there and still flush it out when you are done w/TB cleaner.
Agent 86 posted a nice clear shot of what it will look like when finished. Take a felt tip and mark were you are cutting (to make sure you leave that ridge for gasket sealing cutting some of it from the bottom helps) You will be only leaving the area underneath for gasket sealing (embossed line that you will see) when you have it cut and finished to your liking, then trace part on new gasket. trimming away the extra part of gasket not being used any more. Of course Now you will have to run the coolant line direct to the intake now (simple mod), so intake will only have one heater hose and one upper rad .hose.
To answer your question the mod. is easy, I cut it w/a grinding wheel, a dremel, w/some cut off discs (roughed it in) and them finished the edge w/ a sanding drum (dremel part). tape up the IAC as to not get crud in there and still flush it out when you are done w/TB cleaner.
Agent 86 posted a nice clear shot of what it will look like when finished. Take a felt tip and mark were you are cutting (to make sure you leave that ridge for gasket sealing cutting some of it from the bottom helps) You will be only leaving the area underneath for gasket sealing (embossed line that you will see) when you have it cut and finished to your liking, then trace part on new gasket. trimming away the extra part of gasket not being used any more. Of course Now you will have to run the coolant line direct to the intake now (simple mod), so intake will only have one heater hose and one upper rad .hose.
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I would contact jburnett, aside from making your intake I am sure (judging from the work I have seen him post) he can make you one that will work on your intake, including hood clearance.
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Originally Posted by mseven
I would contact jburnett, aside from making your intake I am sure (judging from the work I have seen him post) he can make you one that will work on your intake, including hood clearance.
Yeah, I don't think Jeb would be too excited to hear from me. This is the third time I've put on one of his intakes, because the last 2 times they leaked coolant pretty badly. Been about 4 months since we've spoken and he seemed a little annoyed, as I recall.
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In that case maybe a standard 4bbl. spacer can be used as a starting point (provided he did not modify the carb mounting area for the plenum), and some whittleling or some from a machine shop.
If not only choice would be getting a machine shop to fab you one up base on the plenum for fit (I am guessing intake is on the car)
If not only choice would be getting a machine shop to fab you one up base on the plenum for fit (I am guessing intake is on the car)
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I went with a carberator wedge plate.
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
We have plenty of clarence in the back of the intake and it gave me extra clarence in front. You can check hood clarence issue with bolting it on and useing good old fashon playdoh on top of the intake - close hood and it will give you how much clarence you have when it flattens out.
I did have the wedge welded to my plenum.
PS - I had a few leaks and had a local welder take care of them. The welder said that it was not uncommon with aluminum welds and was impressed with the amount of modification.
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
We have plenty of clarence in the back of the intake and it gave me extra clarence in front. You can check hood clarence issue with bolting it on and useing good old fashon playdoh on top of the intake - close hood and it will give you how much clarence you have when it flattens out.
I did have the wedge welded to my plenum.
PS - I had a few leaks and had a local welder take care of them. The welder said that it was not uncommon with aluminum welds and was impressed with the amount of modification.
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Originally Posted by 85vet
I went with a carberator wedge plate.
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
We have plenty of clarence in the back of the intake and it gave me extra clarence in front. You can check hood clarence issue with bolting it on and useing good old fashon playdoh on top of the intake - close hood and it will give you how much clarence you have when it flattens out.
I did have the wedge welded to my plenum.
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
We have plenty of clarence in the back of the intake and it gave me extra clarence in front. You can check hood clarence issue with bolting it on and useing good old fashon playdoh on top of the intake - close hood and it will give you how much clarence you have when it flattens out.
I did have the wedge welded to my plenum.
Do you know what degree wedge spacer you used?
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Originally Posted by Billdavis83
Do you know what degree wedge spacer you used?
part # 710-65030 (jegs)
5 degree, but we tried quite a few to find the correct one. You might need a flat one and the wedge to lift the front up.
Another item #350-9265 might help.
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I don't know what year or anything on your car ,you didn't include that info.
I know eather mid america or Elkerts or one of those companys have a plate about 1/2 inch in width and that might help to clear the stat.
I know the early style throttle body like and 86 may clear?
I know eather mid america or Elkerts or one of those companys have a plate about 1/2 inch in width and that might help to clear the stat.
I know the early style throttle body like and 86 may clear?