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Back in the 60's 70's I drove mg's healy's and z cars all with su's very similar to a TB (early TB?) never a problem with icing (not much heat either). As far as it goes I don't think unless you live past the norther border you should have a problem. It is manly for prehaeting for better emissions. WRO
Thanks for the info, it's a mod I would like to do, but wondered if it would be a mistake. Real world experience is always a bonus, thanks again!
..ya know, i wish i paid more attention as to what was in front of tb!....let me get this straight.....i pull off two hoses from the tb and join then together with a brass connector of sorts....what about the holes/ports left open on the tb after i joined the hoses together?
The coolant comes from the heater line, through the hose and goes into pass side of TB, exits bottom/front of TB through a hose to nipple at front of intake. You can mate the hoses together or better yet toss the 2 hoses and replace with one long piece of 5/8'' hose. I ran my hose under the AC compressor and straight into the intake. You can't see it which is better than seeing it lying over your valve covers.
Here is a couple of pics of the hose route i used. I did bend the hard tube at heater line so the hose would arch nicely under the AC.
PVC will deform from heat. I had a PVC tee on mine and it bent into a U shape, I decided to remove it incase it got brittle. I just went with a new hose, I bought five feet of heater hose and new clamps. You can then route the hose much nicer. This makes taking the TB off very easy. For new people doing this, look at the clamp before buying it, some really suck! Use a quality clamp.
I see most of you that talked about the bennies of this mod live in the deep south. I live way up in the cold Northeast and the temps are starting to get a little brisk in the morning, will the throttle butterflies ice up in the spring and fall?
Thanks,
Adam.
Your plates wont freeze, its got to get DAMN cold for that to happen, and it needs to be driven under low part-throttle conditions for a few minutes for that to happen. This thing was done during the Canada winter testing that occurs for every GM model.
Such conditions that no C4 owner would risk driving their car in, how often do you drive in sub-zero weather when there isnt snow on the ground?
I agree, you would probably have to live in the North Pole for the throttly body to stick from cold weather. The coolant runs through the TB to warm it up during very cold weather. There is no performance gain from this mod, only the mind set that the TB doesn't heat the incoming air as much.
Iceing can occur at 32 to 38 degrees while driving at highway speed. It will melt by the time you stop the car and open the hood to see why your car is not running right. Very unusual but can happen if under the right conditions. I wouldn't worry about it unless it is a daily driver.
Your plates wont freeze, its got to get DAMN cold for that to happen, and it needs to be driven under low part-throttle conditions for a few minutes for that to happen. This thing was done during the Canada winter testing that occurs for every GM model.
Such conditions that no C4 owner would risk driving their car in, how often do you drive in sub-zero weather when there isnt snow on the ground?
I don't know, one forum member from Mass took a picture of his C4 right after a blizzard! To answer your question, no. Thank you!
On the LT-1s you just run the hose from the radiator T directly to the steel heater line under the passenger fuel rail cover. No coupling, no extra hose.
The air isn't going to be any cooler going through the TB at that velocity but the temps under the hood are lowered a little, and every bit helps I guess. The TB and plenum are cool to the touch afterward vs. red hot.
Has anyone had any problems with the California smog ***** failing your visual inspection after doing a bypass?"Ah!,pluged off fittings.Hold this man for questioning".
Here's the way I plugged my throttle body coolant pipes. I can't take the credit for the idea though. It was good Ole AGENT 86 brainstormed this one...
I just gotta ask.....why did the General put them on in the first place?
just wanted to spend a few extra bucks.
I used to run a Holley strip dominator manifold, so there is a big air gap under the runners. My carb would freeze to a block of ice in these Utah winters. I'll bet, now that I bypassed my TB coolant passage, this one will to. However, it is like Vader 86 said, "who drives in sub zero weather in the winter time without snow anyway"? I'll give it a shot, as winter is soon upon us here. I WILL report back, should be a fun an educational experiment for the knowledge of the forum. In all seriousness..
Last edited by Steel Breeze; Sep 13, 2006 at 01:43 PM.
The coolant comes from the heater line, through the hose and goes into pass side of TB, exits bottom/front of TB through a hose to nipple at front of intake. You can mate the hoses together or better yet toss the 2 hoses and replace with one long piece of 5/8'' hose. I ran my hose under the AC compressor and straight into the intake. You can't see it which is better than seeing it lying over your valve covers.
Here is a couple of pics of the hose route i used. I did bend the hard tube at heater line so the hose would arch nicely under the AC.
....well, i did the bypass with the line pretty much like you did as well as the t-stat replacement from a stant to a robertshaw balanced t-stat....broke a damn small black vac line right off of a connector right next to and behind the t-stat housing...i remembered a trick to fix it and dammit if it didn't work!.....i lucked out!....removed the iac and tb and cleaned both and set up iac per manual......