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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by B!@cK 86 V3tt3
Things are getting kind of ugly around here. Your welcome on the engine brite. I dont mind trucks but I wouldnt trade my vette for one. Again everyone has there opinion.
Remember, your original question asked about racinga diesel truck. I showed you what one is capable of and everyone else turned it into a truck bashing thread.

I'll take my truck anyday if I was forced to pick only one vehicle. I can do a lot more in my truck, sure it's not as fast, or as good looking as either of my vettes, but it sure does a hell of a lot more and hauls more people, and it ain't really that slow for it's weight.
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Remember, your original question asked about racinga diesel truck. I showed you what one is capable of and everyone else turned it into a truck bashing thread.

I'll take my truck anyday if I was forced to pick only one vehicle. I can do a lot more in my truck, sure it's not as fast, or as good looking as either of my vettes, but it sure does a hell of a lot more and hauls more people, and it ain't really that slow for it's weight.
Yea. But everyone here is comparing apples to oranges. They are two different cars made for two different things....You cant say one is better than the other. The vette would smoke the truck in autocross. The truck would do a hell of alot better in offroad. See, no comparisions just opposites. If you had the money, jack up a corvette on some off road tires/rims and go for it.

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Originally Posted by B!@cK 86 V3tt3
jack up a corvette on some off road tires/rims and go for it.
I've had that thought for many many years.

Here's one, I have pics of others, but can't locate them right now.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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I guess my dreams of an autocross H1 and a rockclimber Testarossa are being crushed...

Oh, and I would rock the car in Mojo's first pic reply. The TRD C4 is awesome.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Hey, I was not bashing trucks. They have their appeal and purpose. I was just questioning the point of a Drag Truck..I mean really. It's like the Nascar version truck race...why do that when you have the cars doing the same thing better. Yeah, I've seen some very fast Ford SVT Lightning trucks with impressive speed. It just doesn't do it for ME. What attracted me to Vettes was the all around perfomance. (also the history) If you just want somethin' fast in a straight line there are plenty of options modded stangs for one. When I think of a hot rod truck, I think of the off road type of racing more suited for what trucks can do. A Vette could never do. Besides I see a lot of those modded trucks down here and we all know they aint runnin' them a the track. I've seen most of them driven like morons on the street and since they think they have a sleeper are always trying to street race sporty cars to "embarass" them. Street racing is bad enough with cars, now you have these huge trucks to worry about. And I wont get into the CRAZY UPS drivers (j/k) Last year an owner of a well known electrical contracting company was killed in his SVT Lightning when he was street racing a Meredes Benz. I guess he wanted to show him. I'm sure they thought they were being safe as it was in the wee hours and no traffic. The truck lost it. A combo of too much power light rear and a slight curve in the road. It seems everyone wants to market that fast is always good or cool. I also have heard that some SUVs and trucks are being involved in more rollovers from the trend of large wheels and low profile tires with stickier componds that these trucks were never designed to use. It's much different when a vehicle is engineered from the start to perform. Scary thought..a 10 second Civic with with brakes designed for a 20 second civic. Like I said I aint bashing trucks..I guess I just have a passion for the engineering that goes into true performance cars.
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Originally Posted by TOO_HOTTVETTE
. Like I said I aint bashing trucks...
Hey, it's just a friendly debate, just busting your *****. Though I did mean if I had to choose only one vehicle, it would be my truck.

Since as Americans, most of our racing is either in a circle or a straight line, the type of car doesn't really matter, some are better some aren't.

The Corvette was never meant to be a drag car, but it does it so well, and it handles the curves with ease and still gets over 30 mpg(if you behave), good looking, and right now cheap for 84-96.

Ease of maintainence depends on your skill level, for some it's easy, for others a nitemare, the majority of us fall right in between.

I agree with the NASCAR trucks, they really shouldn't have been implemented, but that's only because so many people drive pickup trucks that they wanted to see it.

I remember the good old days when only us rednecks had pickups, now everyone has one, even if they don't take them offroad. They are teh reason trucks are more car like, I liked it better with the rough ride.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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I also have heard that some SUVs and trucks are being involved in more rollovers from the trend of large wheels and low profile tires with stickier componds that these trucks were never designed to use. It's much different when a vehicle is engineered from the start to perform. Scary thought..a 10 second Civic with with brakes designed for a 20 second civic. Like I said I aint bashing trucks..I guess I just have a passion for the engineering that goes into true performance cars.[/QUOTE]

The rolling over is common sense. Jeep wrangler soft tops are top heavy. Once they get the lifts loose suspension big tires and drive it on the road its bound to tip over.

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Originally Posted by B!@cK 86 V3tt3
I also have heard that some SUVs and trucks are being involved in more rollovers from the trend of large wheels and low profile tires with stickier componds that these trucks were never designed to use. It's much different when a vehicle is engineered from the start to perform. Scary thought..a 10 second Civic with with brakes designed for a 20 second civic. Like I said I aint bashing trucks..I guess I just have a passion for the engineering that goes into true performance cars.

The rolling over is common sense. Jeep wrangler soft tops are top heavy. Once they get the lifts loose suspension big tires and drive it on the road its bound to tip over.
The cause of rollovers has very little to do with the design and engineering, it has to do with jerks who think a truck can handle like a car.
As you stated, top heaviness is a huge factor more so that the wheels and tires.

Remember the Firestone fiasco? It wasn't Firestones fault yet they were blamed mostly because they manufactured the tires. Since all teh jerks were rolling Explorers, Ford lowered the psi recommnedation to lower the CG of the vehicle, it worked, but the lower tire pressure got the tires hotter and caused them to fail.
The Suzuki Samurai had been around for close to 20 years before they were introduced to the USA. Not a single rollover had been reported.
The first year the Samurai was here, there were 38 accidents reported, three were rollovers, one of them being a drunk driver and the other two were t-boned causing the rollover.
The redesigned Jeep Wrangler was tested by Consumer reports, they put these very heavy outriggers on the sides of the Jeep that were to protect them from a rollover, but all they did was cause the rollover.
Had the outriggers not been there, the Jeep may still have rolled over, but it would have been at a much higher speed.
Don't even get me started on the Chevy truck gas tank that Consumer Reports tested. That was found to be a fraud as well.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
The cause of rollovers has very little to do with the design and engineering, it has to do with jerks who think a truck can handle like a car.
As you stated, top heaviness is a huge factor more so that the wheels and tires.

Remember the Firestone fiasco? It wasn't Firestones fault yet they were blamed mostly because they manufactured the tires. Since all teh jerks were rolling Explorers, Ford lowered the psi recommnedation to lower the CG of the vehicle, it worked, but the lower tire pressure got the tires hotter and caused them to fail.
The Suzuki Samurai had been around for close to 20 years before they were introduced to the USA. Not a single rollover had been reported.
The first year the Samurai was here, there were 38 accidents reported, three were rollovers, one of them being a drunk driver and the other two were t-boned causing the rollover.
The redesigned Jeep Wrangler was tested by Consumer reports, they put these very heavy outriggers on the sides of the Jeep that were to protect them from a rollover, but all they did was cause the rollover.
Had the outriggers not been there, the Jeep may still have rolled over, but it would have been at a much higher speed.
Don't even get me started on the Chevy truck gas tank that Consumer Reports tested. That was found to be a fraud as well.

We should consider ourselves LUCKY. Our car comes stock from the factory a few inches off the ground. Lower them with new suspension and its almost impossible to flip a vette. Plus Our cars weight are at the bottom not top heavy. Its people who do stupid things that give companys bad names, law suits, and complaints......Drive the speed limit and you should be fine...
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:bb Talk about having your a$$ handed to you
My F350 will pull hard too, amazing how much torque and hp can be made.
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