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I suppose then you have the utmost respect for kids driving domestics and always assume they bought it with their own cash earned by mowing yards?
I could give a sh** who's daddy paid for what. Good for them. I think it's great their dad bought them a cool car. I wish my daddy would have bought me a car at that age.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Ah and the judgement continues...
I suppose then you have the utmost respect for kids driving domestics and always assume they bought it with their own cash earned by mowing yards?
I could give a sh** who's daddy paid for what. Good for them. I think it's great their dad bought them a cool car. I wish my daddy would have bought me a car at that age.
I suppose then you have the utmost respect for kids driving domestics and always assume they bought it with their own cash earned by mowing yards?
I could give a sh** who's daddy paid for what. Good for them. I think it's great their dad bought them a cool car. I wish my daddy would have bought me a car at that age.
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The Pontiac GTO'S are aussie Holden cars . They have Ls2 motors with 400 hundred ponies.Chevy is basing a lot of cars on the Holden platform . The aussies have a El Camino like vehicle but Chevy wont import it because it would compete for truck sales ,it is also 400 horses .
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From: 2003 Points Champ Great Lakes Corvette Challenge; 2006/2007 Winner MSD True Street
I drive aWRX.
Wow.
I feel......so.......ashamed:o
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Are you a young punk that daddy bought his car and go fast parts? If not, then don't be ashamed. The part to be ashamed about is being a young punk. Young punks can drive anything. Around here they tend to drive Japanese cars and mustangs. Daddy buying them the car and parts helps make them punks.
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I have been around the block. I started out with an '88 gt mustang then went to a '92 eclipse gsx awd and now have a '85 vette. I got the stang @ 20 because of the hole muscle power thing. Then i test drove the eclipse and that blew the doors off the stang so i bout it. This was before 2 fast came out. After that to many kids were ruining it for the sport. You know slap some stickers on get 25hp and no one can them. Speeding through town so they can show off their fart cans. I did not want to be in that group. So i sold it and now i have a vette @ 34.
Rice is not a car it is the attitude of the diver/group. You see it all the time. It's on mustangs, camaros, cavaliers, ect... But i tell you what i can drive down the street and not get hasled driving a vette. Drive around in a tuner import and you'll have a cop tail you for a while. Times have changed cars have changed. The old timers that had muscle cars had the same problem back in the days.
Rice is not a car it is the attitude of the diver/group. You see it all the time. It's on mustangs, camaros, cavaliers, ect... But i tell you what i can drive down the street and not get hasled driving a vette. Drive around in a tuner import and you'll have a cop tail you for a while. Times have changed cars have changed. The old timers that had muscle cars had the same problem back in the days.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I have been around the block. I started out with an '88 gt mustang then went to a '92 eclipse gsx awd and now have a '85 vette. I got the stang @ 20 because of the hole muscle power thing. Then i test drove the eclipse and that blew the doors off the stang so i bout it. This was before 2 fast came out. After that to many kids were ruining it for the sport. You know slap some stickers on get 25hp and no one can them. Speeding through town so they can show off their fart cans. I did not want to be in that group. So i sold it and now i have a vette @ 34.
Rice is not a car it is the attitude of the diver/group. You see it all the time. It's on mustangs, camaros, cavaliers, ect... But i tell you what i can drive down the street and not get hasled driving a vette. Drive around in a tuner import and you'll have a cop tail you for a while. Times have changed cars have changed. The old timers that had muscle cars had the same problem back in the days.
Rice is not a car it is the attitude of the diver/group. You see it all the time. It's on mustangs, camaros, cavaliers, ect... But i tell you what i can drive down the street and not get hasled driving a vette. Drive around in a tuner import and you'll have a cop tail you for a while. Times have changed cars have changed. The old timers that had muscle cars had the same problem back in the days.
This is exactly what I was talking about. It's the attitude. Nowadays it just happens that they are driving rice. 15 years ago it was 5.0 this 5.0 that. The next trend will probably be European.
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Ah this is what happens when you get old! My generation was the last of the sports car gens. Back then it was 5.0 this and 5.0 that, and that got really old too. I don't like the whole ricer attitude; one that is proud of what he or someone else bought instead of what he has made himself or maintained. My generation and most of yours was all about working on cars, loving them and keeping them in tip top shape; this generation is all about buying parts and having everyone else do all the work for them. How many ricers build their own engines or transmissions? I have been asked to paint body kits or build engines for so many of this crowd and it is a shame; our generations did not consider you one of the group unless you did at least some of the work yourself. About vette's vs. WRX attitudes; all I can say is that I have never had a vette pull up next to my ZX9R and want to race from a stop sign....the same can not be said for the other crowd(and that would have somehow worked out well for him?). Don't get me wrong, I am glad that they are interested in the sport; just don't be an idiot about it and make it you and your cars life mission to beat a F-Body.
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I've got a friend who owns a local parts store. He stocks his shelves with the "go fast" bolt on crap because it sells. 90% of the time the kids are buying clear corners, "cold air" intakes, rims, that sort of thing. Most of them are polite enough and most are decent kids. Most also are buying with money they save working part time at burger joints or the like.
There are always a few bad apples in any group but I don't think that many parents are buying their kids Turbocharged cars or Turbo kits for their cars. Sure, there are always the kids that do get a new Evo or WRX or Mustang or whatever we have a few of them around here but I think the majority of young people out there are buying with money the earn themselves.
There are always a few bad apples in any group but I don't think that many parents are buying their kids Turbocharged cars or Turbo kits for their cars. Sure, there are always the kids that do get a new Evo or WRX or Mustang or whatever we have a few of them around here but I think the majority of young people out there are buying with money the earn themselves.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I've done nothing but try and open your mind a little. Maybe you should go back and read your posts, you know, the ones where you complain about everyone having a superiority complex and then promptly show us yours.
And after you're done with that Carlton, you can stick your elitist, judgmental attitude up your *** right beside all the other sh** you've been spewing that you think doesn't stink. You're passing judgment on kids and assuming they needed daddy to buy them a $3K import.
I don't know whether you're ignorant, or just jealous of these "punks" because at 16 your parents couldn't afford to buy you clean socks. God forbid some of these kids have jobs and like spending their meager paycheck on garbage at Pep Boys. If you took it down to the track for once, you'd realize those ricers are car guys just like you, and that half of them drive better than you and know more about cars than you. But you won't, because you might lose or embarrass yourself and run out of excuses and crash this holy high horse you're riding on.
So instead, just save yourself the grief and get back in your "exclusive" trailer-park exotic and drive it like a limp-toed grandma. Hold your nose high and enjoy that wonderful feeling of how capable it is vs. how incapable you are.
And after you're done with that Carlton, you can stick your elitist, judgmental attitude up your *** right beside all the other sh** you've been spewing that you think doesn't stink. You're passing judgment on kids and assuming they needed daddy to buy them a $3K import.
I don't know whether you're ignorant, or just jealous of these "punks" because at 16 your parents couldn't afford to buy you clean socks. God forbid some of these kids have jobs and like spending their meager paycheck on garbage at Pep Boys. If you took it down to the track for once, you'd realize those ricers are car guys just like you, and that half of them drive better than you and know more about cars than you. But you won't, because you might lose or embarrass yourself and run out of excuses and crash this holy high horse you're riding on.
So instead, just save yourself the grief and get back in your "exclusive" trailer-park exotic and drive it like a limp-toed grandma. Hold your nose high and enjoy that wonderful feeling of how capable it is vs. how incapable you are.
You really are an idiot. Making assumptions about me.
I worked where these kids came in with their daddy to buy those parts. That makes me an expert on the subject. I have sold those kids their parts and ran daddy's CC to pay for it. As for the superior attitude. You have it in spades. You think you and your car are better than any corvette driver. This entire thread is filled with you passing judgement on vette owners. You have not said one nice thing about any vette owner. Maybe you should leave this forum and go to one with other vette haters.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I've got a friend who owns a local parts store. He stocks his shelves with the "go fast" bolt on crap because it sells. 90% of the time the kids are buying clear corners, "cold air" intakes, rims, that sort of thing. Most of them are polite enough and most are decent kids. Most also are buying with money they save working part time at burger joints or the like.
There are always a few bad apples in any group but I don't think that many parents are buying their kids Turbocharged cars or Turbo kits for their cars. Sure, there are always the kids that do get a new Evo or WRX or Mustang or whatever we have a few of them around here but I think the majority of young people out there are buying with money the earn themselves.
There are always a few bad apples in any group but I don't think that many parents are buying their kids Turbocharged cars or Turbo kits for their cars. Sure, there are always the kids that do get a new Evo or WRX or Mustang or whatever we have a few of them around here but I think the majority of young people out there are buying with money the earn themselves.
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As for the superior attitude. You have it in spades. You think you and your car are better than any corvette driver. This entire thread is filled with you passing judgement on vette owners. You have not said one nice thing about any vette owner. Maybe you should leave this forum and go to one with other vette haters.
Do you actually work on your vette? Or just drive it to look cool? I think there's a ricer inside you trying to get out.
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This statement confuses me, does this mean you worked at autozone or NAPA? And I don't see how that would make you an expert, did you keep track of who paid with their own money and who had "daddy's CC"? Without proper logs I don't think you can make a statement as fact like that. Running a cash register isnt going to make you an expert, just about $9/h.
Honestly though, I know people who have a WRX, s2000 or prelude, and they all buy their own parts and are all around nice people. Then I know a few people in the mustang crowd who were given the car, know nothing about its internals and in desperate need of an attitude adjustment.
The truth of the matter is you can find the bad apples in any crowd if you look for them, you apparently see a kid in an import and assume daddy bought it for them and that they must be A-holes.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
If Carlton is smart, he'll stay behind in dreamland in the safe confines of his ricer store cash register.
I bet he parks in front of the store and points out his Corvette to all the import drivers that come in. "See that kids, that beauty there is a real sportcar. Car and Driver says it does 0-60 in 5 seconds flat!"