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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Take off you oil fill cap and look straight down at the head, my 89 has the casting # directly under it, your # should end in 113 if it has the stock heads on it.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Take off you oil fill cap and look straight down at the head, my 89 has the casting # directly under it, your # should end in 113 if it has the stock heads on it.
Thanks, I'll take a look at that tomorrow!
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Old May 21, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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I'm going to go down to the shop tomorrow after work. I'll let you guys know what I find out. Thanks for the responses everyone!
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Old May 22, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Ok well I called the shop today and told him they should fit. He told me they will bolt on no problem, but then I would need to unbolt them from the block in order to change my spark plugs. He said he called many places to find out about the headers and my car, and they all said they won't work. He keeps telling me they won't work with angle plug heads. I told him they won't work with AFR angle plug heads, but he keeps saying they won't work. He told me to come down after work and he will show me. I will show him this thread when I get there and prove to him they should work. I got him to check the casting numbers on the heads and they end in 113, so they are the original ones. Maybe Summit sent me the wrong headers. Do you guys unbolt your headers to change the spark plugs??
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Old May 22, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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No, no need to remove the headers to change plugs.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmers
Do you guys unbolt your headers to change the spark plugs??
Hell no. I can change all 8 plugs in about 10 minutes. Look at all the plug clearence in my above pics. That is my car. You probably got the wrong headers in that box. They have to fit with stock heads. If your heads are stock, you must have had the wrong headers delivered. Anyone who says Hooker 2151's don't fit a stock L98 are wrong. These headers where made for this car. The application description of the header backs this up.

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Old May 22, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
No, no need to remove the headers to change plugs.
Use a spark plug socket and a combination wrench (that's what the hex is for on the end of the plug socket...duh!)

Are you sure you can't find somebody more competent?
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Old May 22, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Hell no. I can change all 8 plugs in about 10 minutes. Look at all the plug clearence in my above pics. That is my car. You probably got the wrong headers in that box. They have to fit with stock heads. If your heads are stock, you must have had the wrong headers delivered. Anyone who says Hooker 2151's don't fit a stock L98 are wrong. These headers where made for this car. The application description of the header backs this up.
Well thats what I thought. I guess Summit sent the wrong headers. I'll know for sure when I go down there after work.
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Post some photos of your headers, or compare yours to mine pictured above. Something is not right here. Box says 2151?
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Old May 22, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerX70CC
Are you sure you can't find somebody more competent?
I know a bunch of people who have taken their cars to this place and had great work done. Everything has gone smoothly except for my headers. He's been great about the situation and is going to show me the problem with them when I go down there. I must have been sent the wrong headers.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 86PACER
Post some photos of your headers, or compare yours to mine pictured above. Something is not right here. Box says 2151?
The box and bill says they are 2151's. I can take some pictures when I go down there later.
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My Hookers are stamped with the part number on the flanges, between where the tubes are welded on to them. You could check there too, in case they are mis-boxed.

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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
My Hookers are stamped with the part number on the flanges, between where the tubes are welded on to them. You could check there too, in case they are mis-boxed.

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Thanks, that will help out alot!
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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmers
Thanks, that will help out alot!
This will be interesting. Now that we know you have factory heads I'm curious to see the outcome, particularly if the correct number is on the header. Although Hooker headers in general have a level of notoriety for inconsistency in the fitment department, this would be beyond the pale if they are indeed the correct part number.
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Something is going to have to be changed. We now know the heads are the expected, correct, 113s. If the headers turn out to be genuine 2151s, that only leaves the mechanic.

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Old May 22, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Something is going to have to be changed. We now know the heads are the expected, correct, 113s. If the headers turn out to be genuine 2151s, that only leaves the mechanic.

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Well I just got back from the garage and everything is fine. Apparently the mechanic was concerned about how close spark plug #1 was to the header. He is afraid that the spark plug wire would touch the header and burn. All the other ones are fine. So like planned I am going to use the headers. I checked the casting on the header and they are 2151's. I guess the manager that called me about this issue didn't know what he was talking about and just said they wouldn't work. Thanks for the input everyone, I was going out of my mind!

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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmers
Well I just got back from the garage and everything is fine. Apparently the mechanic was concerned about how close spark plug #1 was to the header. He is afraid that the spark plug wire would touch the header and burn. All the other ones are fine. So like planned I am going to use the headers. I checked the casting on the header and they are 2151's. I guess the manager that called me about this issue didn't know what he was talking about and just said they wouldn't work. Thanks for the input everyone, I was going out of my mind!
WOW...they really did a mind job on ya..glad it worked out in the end.

Btw with some headers and angle plugs heads,if using a standard 90 degree angle spark plug boot that seems to fit too close,you can get an angled spark plug set or wires and use the ones that will keep it further away.

Ive seen guys buy 2 different sets of wires to take some out of the other kit to work better with their headers they were using.Most wire kits are made for stock applications,and using headers require you to find or make homemade wires to fit way better than what you get out of the box.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill's86Coupe
WOW...they really did a mind job on ya..glad it worked out in the end.

Btw with some headers and angle plugs heads,if using a standard 90 degree angle spark plug boot that seems to fit too close,you can get an angled spark plug set or wires and use the ones that will keep it further away.

Ive seen guys buy 2 different sets of wires to take some out of the other kit to work better with their headers they were using.Most wire kits are made for stock applications,and using headers require you to find or make homemade wires to fit way better than what you get out of the box.
They mentioned somthing about angled plugs yesterday. They are firing up the engine today so I'll see how they managed.

Thanks again for everyones responses!
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