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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Can I chase the threads by cleaning up the old bolts and putting "slots" in them (kinda like a tap)? Do I need actual "thread chasers". That's a trick one of the machinist taught me in one of my jobs I had while in college.

Finding a thread chaser locally is getting to be a bitch. I really won't need them after this build, so there's no point in spending tons of money on "top of the line" ones.

Summit has a set for $12, however, they just look like simple threads to me...

The threads in the block aren't beat up, I just want to clean them before I put them together.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Buy two sets of tap/die sets (Metric and Standard) for about $14.00 each from NAPA. They'll last you for years.....AND you'll find lots of other uses for them also.

Poor quality, sure....but GREAT to have around.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Buy two sets of tap/die sets (Metric and Standard) for about $14.00 each from NAPA. They'll last you for years.....AND you'll find lots of other uses for them also.

Poor quality, sure....but GREAT to have around.
A tap and a chase are two different things. A tap can cut, a chase doesn't.

I have taps. I need a chase.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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You think these are ok - or junk? They look like pot metal, but they might be good for a couple uses.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D9 00200&N=700+4294853264+115&autoview=sku
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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You think these are ok - or junk? They look like pot metal, but they might be good for a couple uses.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D9 00200&N=700+4294853264+115&autoview=sku
Those are the ones I'm looking at. I figure if I get one use out of them they're worth it.

This is why I'm thinking of taking an old head bolt and cutting into the threads. I did it for a sparkplug hole once, and it worked fine. At that time, I had access to a mill, I don't today. I'm going Dremel.
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Originally Posted by jsup
Those are the ones I'm looking at. I figure if I get one use out of them they're worth it.
Let me know how this goes, I got to chase all my holes too.
I'm a little behind you on the reassembly, waiting for my heads to get here.
I still got a ton of stuff I want to clean up in the engine compartment before I really get started putting things back together.
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i used a tap & die on my head bolts and block threads. the threads had alot of old thread sealent on them and the block had a thread that was begining to decay. this made assembly and torqing down easier.
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Originally Posted by biggrizzly
Let me know how this goes, I got to chase all my holes too.
I'm a little behind you on the reassembly, waiting for my heads to get here.
I still got a ton of stuff I want to clean up in the engine compartment before I really get started putting things back together.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by black88z51
i used a tap & die on my head bolts and block threads. the threads had alot of old thread sealent on them and the block had a thread that was begining to decay. this made assembly and torqing down easier.
Last resort using a tap. I'd prefer not to cut new threads as there's no telling if the bolts would react negatively or not. I don't want to cut more out than is necessary.
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PM sent, put on a Chicken Suit and call me Monte....
Too funny! I'll take door number three please... Monte!
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Originally Posted by biggrizzly
You think these are ok - or junk? They look like pot metal, but they might be good for a couple uses.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D9 00200&N=700+4294853264+115&autoview=sku
I have a set of those I have been using for years. Haven't failed me yet.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by biggrizzly
You think these are ok - or junk? They look like pot metal, but they might be good for a couple uses.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D9 00200&N=700+4294853264+115&autoview=sku
That's the way to go!
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I can't see how the cheap Summit set could possibly go deep enough to chase all of the threads, when comparing them to the ARP set.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Can I chase the threads by cleaning up the old bolts and putting "slots" in them (kinda like a tap)?
Yes you can take a cutting wheel and cut slots in the threads. Just make sure you take a wire wheel to it first to remove any burrs.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Running a tap into a threaded bore should not do any, "cutting", and I don't see anything wrong with that practice. Use some oil on the tap so you don't gall the threads. Junk filling the threaded bore will be removed by the tap.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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I agree,a tap can be used for cutting new threads or chasing old threads.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by scott85vette
I agree,a tap can be used for cutting new threads or chasing old threads.
If that were the case, why are chases even made?

BTW, I'm done. The threads were chased, then followed with a clean bolt before I bolted everything up.

Just wonderin' if there really is no need for a chase, why is the practice recommended by every engine builder I spoke to?

In fact, one went as far as to say "make sure it's a CHASE not a TAP".
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Have always been curious about that myself
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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I honestly have never had any issues using my taps to clean threads. Everything has always snugged up and torqued down fine for me. It's just one way I've learned from being around working on cars and large machinery with my dad growing up.
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