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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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I though I had everything nailed down on this thing, but now I seem to have another issue. The car has a forged 383 bottom end, aluminum fast burn heads, solid roller cam, miniram intake, headers, 36lb injectors, and a few other little things.

The problem is, when I get into the upper rpms (3.5K-6.5K) there seems to be a miss, like a slight jerk, almost like it doesn't want to rev. I also get alittle popping sound like little backfires out of the exhaust when it happens.

I'm not getting any codes, and the car runs fine elsewhere. I'm thinking it may be time for some new plugs and wires.

Any other ideas guys?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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what compression is the motor? sounds like its detonating (pinging)
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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11.5:1

I run premium in it, could I need alittle more than that? maybe octanium mixed with 89 octane gas?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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if your running 93 octane you would be ok as long as it doesnt have too much timing. 89 gas wont be enough. even with octane boosters (im not sure what octanium is) those boosters usually only raise the octane by half a point (1 point at the most) per can.

does the noise seem to change with engine load?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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The octanium stuff is the real deal. It costs 18 dollars a can to treat 20 gallons, and raises octane by 60 points. Hopefully thats not nessecary. The noise just speeds up as the engine revs higher, but it isnt present until about 3.5K, and in park doesnt have the problem until about 4.5K.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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My friend has a 87 383 Stroker with Dart Pro Heads.

Nothing but problems with the fuel injection./ Had a chip made, nothing bu the best. He is now dumping the fuel injection and going to a carb setup. Cant get the thing to run 100%.

We have done everything to this car. The Carb is the way to go.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hangonsnoopy
My friend has a 87 383 Stroker with Dart Pro Heads.

Nothing but problems with the fuel injection./ Had a chip made, nothing bu the best. He is now dumping the fuel injection and going to a carb setup. Cant get the thing to run 100%.

We have done everything to this car. The Carb is the way to go.
You just need to either find someone who can tune the stock system, or change to an aftermarket system. Carb is only the way to go for a track car, no way on a street car.

My Syclone ran 11 flats in the quarter mile and got 24 mpg on the highway 16mpg on the street. Thats with 85lb injectors, 22psi max boost. Truck also had NO lockup converter and a 3500 stall. You cant do that with a carb.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cwyates4
I though I had everything nailed down on this thing, but now I seem to have another issue. The car has a forged 383 bottom end, aluminum fast burn heads, solid roller cam, miniram intake, headers, 36lb injectors, and a few other little things.

The problem is, when I get into the upper rpms (3.5K-6.5K) there seems to be a miss, like a slight jerk, almost like it doesn't want to rev. I also get alittle popping sound like little backfires out of the exhaust when it happens.

I'm not getting any codes, and the car runs fine elsewhere. I'm thinking it may be time for some new plugs and wires.

Any other ideas guys?
Make sure the plug gap is only .035, my 406 with 11.5 compression will misfire at WOT if the plug gap is more then .035. My ignition is in good condition but it is all stock parts.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bjankuski
Make sure the plug gap is only .035, my 406 with 11.5 compression will misfire at WOT if the plug gap is more then .035. My ignition is in good condition but it is all stock parts.


if the gap is too far, the induction will "blow out" the flame kernel. in essence, making it miss due to insufficient spark. it will need more power to fire across the gap and still be able to spark under "load" or, regap to a closer tolerance and go from there.
you shouldnt need to go to a high spark system with those mods, only close the gap so the plug can fire efficiently.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cwyates4
The octanium stuff is the real deal. It costs 18 dollars a can to treat 20 gallons, and raises octane by 60 points. Hopefully thats not nessecary. The noise just speeds up as the engine revs higher, but it isnt present until about 3.5K, and in park doesnt have the problem until about 4.5K.
So if you are running 89 octaniums raising it 60 points means your now running 89.6 octaniumssss.
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So if you are running 89 octaniums raising it 60 points means your now running 89.6 octaniumssss.
nah, 60 points is only 95 research. each 10 points is 1 whole octane.
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Thanks! I stand corrected.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 02:11 AM
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i'll check the plug gaps, may just change them and make sure its correct. I'm still using the stock gm distributor and just some accel wires, don't really think I need an upgrade there.

Thanks for the help guys, i'll let yall know what I come up with.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Yesterday I went and filled up and used a can of octanium. Today I drove it for about 10 mins, then nailed it. Much better! No popping or lack of power, ran better than ever.

The original owner told me he ran premium and booster (didn't say what kind though). Maybe i'll just do this for now on.
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