accel super ram plenum and base
Le Mans Master
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From: Conroe Texas
hmmm, thought about selling mine, as dont think im going to end up doing the build. Anyone interested, i may be willing to let it go, Its COMPLETE, intake, runners, base, fuel injectors, throttle body, DFI computer with harness, laptop, and ProCharger Supercharger...
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Santa Maria, CA
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Santa Maria, CA
If you're building a 396 and need to be CA legal, here's the combination I'm running in my 85. It has not been dyno'd but on paper is in the 500hp, 500 torque range. My butt gauge says it's got enough power.
Super Ram intake, TPiS 1100 CFM throttle body, Crower 221/230 roller cam, AFR 195 heads, TPiS headers and high flow main cat. I went with forged internals. The stock exhaust manifolds are a serious restriction but are necessary to pass visual. TPiS headers are a perfect match for the AFR heads and allow the use of all the stock brackets.
Super Ram intake, TPiS 1100 CFM throttle body, Crower 221/230 roller cam, AFR 195 heads, TPiS headers and high flow main cat. I went with forged internals. The stock exhaust manifolds are a serious restriction but are necessary to pass visual. TPiS headers are a perfect match for the AFR heads and allow the use of all the stock brackets.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Perth Western Australia
St. Jude Donor '10
Superram installation tips
Can someone give some tips on how to install it?
I got the runners on by taking the valve covers and half the rockers off. I am now scratching my head about trying to get all those little upside down vertical bolts in. The bolts don't appear to be metric or imperial in size so I can't even get a spanner on them.
Any info appreciated.
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/vader86/superram.html
I got the runners on by taking the valve covers and half the rockers off. I am now scratching my head about trying to get all those little upside down vertical bolts in. The bolts don't appear to be metric or imperial in size so I can't even get a spanner on them.
Any info appreciated.
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/vader86/superram.html
Last edited by Lemme; Mar 9, 2012 at 07:01 AM.
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Santa Maria, CA
Look at Vader's tips. I did a couple things to speed up the install. First, I installed studs in the runners for the inboard, middle bolts. That allows those four bolts to be tightened from the top. Then I slotted the ends of the rest of the bolts so I could use a screwdriver from the top. You should be able to use a 1/4" 12 point box end wrench to tighten.
If you get a long hex drive (6 inches or longer) you won't need to remove the rocker arms to tighten the runner to manifold bolts.
For gasket sealing, I use RTV on the gaskets between the intake manifold and the runners. I use white lithium grease on the plenum to runner gaskets and the lid. That allows me to pull the plenum and reuse the gaskets.
If you get a long hex drive (6 inches or longer) you won't need to remove the rocker arms to tighten the runner to manifold bolts.
For gasket sealing, I use RTV on the gaskets between the intake manifold and the runners. I use white lithium grease on the plenum to runner gaskets and the lid. That allows me to pull the plenum and reuse the gaskets.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: Castro Valley Calif.
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
All good tips! One other thing would be a ball end hex socket similar to the link below. That would allow you to be misaligned on the runner bolts and it still works OK. (I just rounded the corners slightly on the end of my std hex shaft & it worked).
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...set-67888.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...set-67888.html
Race Director
Joined: Apr 2003
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From: moraga ca
Those upside down mini bolts on the superram are 12 point 1/4" boogers. I coat mine with pipe thread (just to make sure vacuum doesn't pass through the 16 bolts. I use a 1/4" air ratchet with a swivel and 12 point socket. I can get to 12 of the 16 bolts with the air tool. For the other 4 I use a box end wrench. I leave the plenum top sealed so I don't have to deal with another million bolts. I can get the plen on and off pretty quickly this way. Willie
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Perth Western Australia
St. Jude Donor '10
All great tips. I think I will go with the sealed lid option. I think my lid has been sealed with loctite and doesn't want to come off anyway.
I only have one 1/4 inch 12 point box spanner but it didn't fit so it had me scratching my head. It is a cheapy so I will have to go to the tool store and get a decent one.
I have got a long thin T40 torx bit for the runner to intake bolts so that gives me comfort about not having to remove / reinstall / reset the roller rockers all the time.
I still need to get a few 1/4 inch npt pipe plug too. Is it OK to plug the fuel regulator vacuum connection into the plenum?
Is it critical to run a hose from the valve cover to the throttle body for the pcv system (now that the original pipe doesn't fit because of the runners)?
Thanks heaps.
Steve
I only have one 1/4 inch 12 point box spanner but it didn't fit so it had me scratching my head. It is a cheapy so I will have to go to the tool store and get a decent one.
I have got a long thin T40 torx bit for the runner to intake bolts so that gives me comfort about not having to remove / reinstall / reset the roller rockers all the time.
I still need to get a few 1/4 inch npt pipe plug too. Is it OK to plug the fuel regulator vacuum connection into the plenum?
Is it critical to run a hose from the valve cover to the throttle body for the pcv system (now that the original pipe doesn't fit because of the runners)?
Thanks heaps.
Steve
Last edited by Lemme; Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 PM.
Race Director
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From: moraga ca
All great tips. I think I will go with the sealed lid option. I think my lid has been sealed with loctite and doesn't want to come off anyway.
I only have one 1/4 inch 12 point box spanner but it didn't fit so it had me scratching my head. It is a cheapy so I will have to go to the tool store and get a decent one.
I have got a long thin T40 torx bit for the runner to intake bolts so that gives me comfort about not having to remove / reinstall / reset the roller rockers all the time.
I still need to get a 3/8 inch pipe plug too. Is it OK to plug the fuel regulator vacuum connection into the plenum?
Is it critical to run a hose from the valve cover to the throttle body for the pcv system (now that the original pipe doesn't fit because of the runners)?
Thanks heaps.
Steve
I only have one 1/4 inch 12 point box spanner but it didn't fit so it had me scratching my head. It is a cheapy so I will have to go to the tool store and get a decent one.
I have got a long thin T40 torx bit for the runner to intake bolts so that gives me comfort about not having to remove / reinstall / reset the roller rockers all the time.
I still need to get a 3/8 inch pipe plug too. Is it OK to plug the fuel regulator vacuum connection into the plenum?
Is it critical to run a hose from the valve cover to the throttle body for the pcv system (now that the original pipe doesn't fit because of the runners)?
Thanks heaps.
Steve
Racer
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A few guys over on thirdgen.org drill the intake "hard to get bolt holes" bigger and tap the runners so they can install the (safety wired together) "hard 2 get to" bigger bolts in the top of the pizza box with the lid off.
I coat all the "dry" TPI & SR gaskets with PAM cooking spray or motor oil so I can reuse the gaskets over and over.
I coat all the "dry" TPI & SR gaskets with PAM cooking spray or motor oil so I can reuse the gaskets over and over.
Last edited by TTOP350; Mar 9, 2012 at 06:16 PM.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Perth Western Australia
St. Jude Donor '10
Steve
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Perth Western Australia
St. Jude Donor '10
A few guys over on thirdgen.org drill the intake "hard to get bolt holes" bigger and tap the runners so they can install the (safety wired together) "hard 2 get to" bigger bolts in the top of the pizza box with the lid off.
I coat all the "dry" TPI & SR gaskets with PAM cooking spray or motor oil so I can reuse the gaskets over and over.
I coat all the "dry" TPI & SR gaskets with PAM cooking spray or motor oil so I can reuse the gaskets over and over.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Santa Maria, CA
If you add air after the MAF it will thow off the fuel mixture.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Perth Western Australia
St. Jude Donor '10
