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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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About a week ago, the vette wouldn't idle correctly, and last year around november i bought an IAC valve for it because the one that was on there was old as hell. (and i had a lot of money at the time) So when i got the car out, i remembered and i put the new IAC on (after it broke off in the TB and i had to get it drilled out). After reconnecting the IAC and trying to start the car it threw a code 22 for TPS sensor. It wouldn't run for more than 1 second.

I went under the hood and looked at the TPS sensor, and noticed that the connector was missing its clip to attach it to the sensor. I thought it was loose, so i had my dad hold it together while i went and started the car, but it was still giving the code. I pulled the negative battery cable to reset the ecm to see if it would go away, and it didn't.

Went to autodump and ordered a TPS sensor and harness because the harness was missing the clip that connected it to the TPS sensor.

Went home, and installed the TPS sensor and the car still wouldn't start. I tried adjusting it to achieve .54 volts @ idle, but when the sensor is turned as far as it will go on the throttle body with the adjusting screws, it only reads .34 volts! Now it doesn't even run at all. It "catches" but dies instantly.

Help me please..I miss drivin the beast.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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If I recall correctly, the TPS should give values from 0.54 volts to 5 volts. Can you see if the sensor sends signals in that range as you open the throttle? If it dosen't, you may have a defective replacement TPS.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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i did try that, i took the TPS lever and pushed it all the way down and it read 3.5volts
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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I don't think it should stop at 3.5 volts, but it may depend on how stong the battery in the car is. I don't know if it makes a difference if the engine is running (thus suppling 14 volts to the battery/system) or if the engine is off and the battery is weak (say 11.1 volts or less). The only test I can think of off hand to check that is to hook up a battery charger on slow charge and retry the TPS test after checking the voltage at the battery. My charger usually shows about 14.5 volts in slow charge mode.

Again, I am not an expert, so the TPS voltage may not care about the battery/alternator/system strength.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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i think when i jump in the car, and i have the gauges set to volt, it was reading 11.2-11.4 so it might be low. I have tried starting it a lot on the battery without it having time to fully recharge because it only runs for 1-2 seconds. I will try that when i get home from school

Hopefully i can get this stuff sorted out, in the past 6 months i have spent over 500 dollars on sensors/stuff that the people who owned it before me f***ed up.

MAF + harness, IAC, TPS + harness, new spark plugs, wires, cap and rotor, accel supercoil, 02 sensor, K&N, etc..
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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good luck
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Stupid question, does it fire for more than a second if you hold the gas pedal open slightly
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Most of that stuff you didn't need and/or could have gotten good used parts for hardly any cost. I've got at least three spares o2's here, you could have had one.

Your 11.2 v reading is extremely low, I'm guessing the car doesn't have enough juice to run.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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update: battery was low, so i charged it and adjusted the TPS to .54 volts. Now, when i start the car it idles, but if i touch the gas pedal it automatically dies.

The timing is right on at 6 degrees BTDC, the tps is at .54 volts, fuel pressure is 39 psi..what else could it be?

HELP ME!
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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It sounds like you may have a massive air leak. Is the replacement IAC seated properly, especially if it had to be drilled out?
You may be pulling in too much air if it is leaking around the gasket.
Also, hook up your DVM to the TPS and manually open the TB (engine off) and see if the voltage increases.
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the IAC seated perfectly in the hole that it came out of. I will feel around the car tomorrow for leaks. Do you think it could be the injectors?

ill resistance check the injectors (what are they supposed to check in at?)
check for air leaks
and do the TPS & TB thing mentioned above..

if that doens't work i'm just gonna put it on the railroad tracks and claim insurance

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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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The injectors should ohm out fairly evenly. I'd say between 11 and 16 ohms. If they are way off that may be a problem. Have you reset the IAC ? There is method for grounding the ALDL and unplugging the IAC. A search for IAC reset might answer that question, I remember there was a tech tip for it,, but I can't log on to that, for some reason.
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is there a way to reset the IAC without the engine running? As soon as i plug the IAC in, it automatically dies..

the car runs with IAC and EST connectors unplugged, but it is VERY rough and dies. i have to keep starting it until it gets to operating temperature, where it will idle all day but if i touch the gas it dies.
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Originally Posted by Pwnage1337
is there a way to reset the IAC without the engine running? As soon as i plug the IAC in, it automatically dies..

the car runs with IAC and EST connectors unplugged, but it is VERY rough and dies. i have to keep starting it until it gets to operating temperature, where it will idle all day but if i touch the gas it dies.
Have you checked the fuel pressure? This sounds more like a fuel starvation issue rather than a vacuum leak.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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the fuel pressure is right at 39 psi.

Is there a way to reset the IAC without running the engine? It won't run long enough to reset it, it only runs for 1-2 seconds when the EST and IAC are hooked up.
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update:

did a leakdown test, and its holding its fuel pressure right at 39 psi. that eliminates injectors right? I am now convinced that this is a fuel issue.

its kinda weird that the car starts right up like all is well then it just dies..

could this be a sign of a failing pump?

any help is appreciated.
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did a leakdown test, and its holding its fuel pressure right at 39 psi. that eliminates injectors right? I am now convinced that this is a fuel issue.

No it does not.... check the resistance with a VOM
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwnage1337
the fuel pressure is right at 39 psi.

Is there a way to reset the IAC without running the engine? It won't run long enough to reset it, it only runs for 1-2 seconds when the EST and IAC are hooked up.
The Idle Air Controller should home itself when you turn the key to the on position. Use a DVM to see if the 5 volt reference, common to the air temp,TPS, and coolant temp sensor goes to 0. Also see if you happen to have a shor that is pulling that reference voltage to O. Given that when you plug the connectors in the car quits, this may also be the problem. Oh, what year is your car?
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Originally Posted by Bruce Witherspoon
The Idle Air Controller should home itself when you turn the key to the on position. Use a DVM to see if the 5 volt reference, common to the air temp,TPS, and coolant temp sensor goes to 0. Also see if you happen to have a shor that is pulling that reference voltage to O. Given that when you plug the connectors in the car quits, this may also be the problem. Oh, what year is your car?
the car is an 85. what do you mean by 5 volt reference? where/what sensors do i check?
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Originally Posted by Pwnage1337
is there a way to reset the IAC without the engine running? As soon as i plug the IAC in, it automatically dies..

the car runs with IAC and EST connectors unplugged, but it is VERY rough and dies. i have to keep starting it until it gets to operating temperature, where it will idle all day but if i touch the gas it dies.
Here is a tech tip off vaders site. It might help.. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/vader86/Go to technical info and its under TPS and IAC reset.
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