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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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I was just sitting at idle after a heavy run when the engine started missing, and I turned the radio down, and opened the window.
I could hear a loud clack clack clack.
I knew the sound, I broke another rocker stud.
I just idled the car in gear with the flashers on till I got home.
When the car cooled off, I pulled the left rocker cover, and found another stud broken.
I removed all the roller rockers and I installed a set of Comp Cams roller tipped investment cast rockers.
After I was finished adjusting the valves, I had almost 1/2 " of stud showing above the adjusting nuts on the rocker studs.
I think the roller rockers just didn't allow enough stud to be in the poly locks, and the tips of the studs were taking too much stress.
Just for info, when using roller rockers, install the rockers, adjust the valves, shut the engine off, and remove a rocker, and reinstall the poly lock without the rocker. If there isn't more than half of the stud in the poly lock, you are close to reaching the structural limits of the factory studs.
Best to get stronger studs or change to a lower riding rocker.
This is the third stud that has broken.

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 01:08 AM
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The stock L98 Rockers studs are too short.
Have heard that in the past.
Correct set of ARP's are the way to go.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 06:44 AM
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Where is the stud breaking? Above the roller rocker?
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 vette 81 big girl
The stock L98 Rockers studs are too short.
Have heard that in the past.
Correct set of ARP's are the way to go.
I had the same situation with my rollers and studs, less the breaking part. I didn't feel comfortable with the lack of full thread through rocker nut, so I bought the ARP set that are about a 1/2" longer.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Have you checked your push rod lengths? Improper push rod length can cause extra side stress on the studs.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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When I set up the engine initially, the pushrod length was adjusted to give a center wiping surface on the tip of the valve.
It is a 383 wih 113 heads. Basically, with the low engine speeds on the freeway, it is basically patterned after a chevrolet HT383 crate with a zz409 cam. It does have a scat crank with SRP 14cc dished pistons with the piston tops contoured for valve relief.
If I went with longer studs, I would have to change the rocker covers.
I would not be able to keep my "stealth" appearance.
Right now, I can still cross my fingers and explain that a L98 has 230 HP with about 300 lb feet of torque. Then I light 'em up really easy and pass it off as a 3.07 low gear in the trans....

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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
If I went with longer studs, I would have to change the rocker covers.
I would not be able to keep my "stealth" appearance.
Changing to longer studs should have no affect on fitting stock covers. The lock nut will stay at the same height.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Lock nuts rub the covers.......that's why lower slung rockers worked so much better.
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How about Valve cover spacers ?

That may be a good solution for extra valvetrain clearance you might want.
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
Lock nuts rub the covers.......that's why lower slung rockers worked so much better.
Are you sure it's the nuts. I thought my nuts were making contact, too. But after putting grease on parts and checking for traces on covers, it was not the nuts.
FWIW, I am using some of the bulkiest rollers out there, under my stock covers and my aftermarket short covers.
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