******ultimate engine builder challenge!!*****
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Burning Brakes
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From: VALENCIA PA
******ultimate engine builder challenge!!*****
anyone up to assembeling a motor for me on a pro bono basis...im shure if you can build one a cant desrtoy in 2 days you will certanly go down in motor building history...not to mention get ur name all over my race car!!!!
Melting Slicks
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What is the Catch 20 ?
Always a 2nd story to any deal that is ready to go down.
I refuse with Wet sump Oil pan.
Dry Sump only.
You are high speed road racing.
I will take on the challenge then.
My full name has been on race cars in the past.
OK, but no biggie after a while.
Means everything when the guy wins races weekend after weekend & collects $$.
Pit mechanic.
& Head Mechanic.
I don't like things, I walk away.
Most don't want to pay $$.
You paying a person money or have to work for free ?
Free OK for a while.
But gets old also.
Brian R.
Always a 2nd story to any deal that is ready to go down.
I refuse with Wet sump Oil pan.
Dry Sump only.
You are high speed road racing.
I will take on the challenge then.
My full name has been on race cars in the past.
OK, but no biggie after a while.
Means everything when the guy wins races weekend after weekend & collects $$.
Pit mechanic.
& Head Mechanic.
I don't like things, I walk away.
Most don't want to pay $$.
You paying a person money or have to work for free ?
Free OK for a while.
But gets old also.
Brian R.
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From Wikipedia:
Pro bono publico (English: for the public good; usually shortened to pro bono) is a Latin phrase generally used to describe professional work undertaken voluntarily and without payment or at a reduced fee as a public service. It is common in the legal profession and is increasingly seen in marketing, technology, and strategy consulting firms. Pro bono service, unlike traditional volunteerism, uses the specific skills of professionals to provide services to those who are unable to afford them.
I don't think they will line up to donate engines, but lest see how it turns out.
Pro bono publico (English: for the public good; usually shortened to pro bono) is a Latin phrase generally used to describe professional work undertaken voluntarily and without payment or at a reduced fee as a public service. It is common in the legal profession and is increasingly seen in marketing, technology, and strategy consulting firms. Pro bono service, unlike traditional volunteerism, uses the specific skills of professionals to provide services to those who are unable to afford them.
I don't think they will line up to donate engines, but lest see how it turns out.
Team Owner
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A builder starved for attention or trying to gain popularity might do it IMO, but also it's 2011 and there is a good chance most people will say WTF??? and walk away from this deal.
This is an interesting concept considering Internet forums these days and how people work together.
Try a crate motor maybe you'll get lucky and get a couple of seasons out of it.
I have met many guys at race tracks in all kinds of racing that can get years out of their engines and still be very competitive.
I think it's been your builder's fault unless you are really pushing those things way further than you are supposed to.
You can get short blocks on CL for like 100-200.
Last edited by pologreen1; Sep 26, 2011 at 10:01 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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ill get a block my buddy has an extra one....2 bolt main i get it fluxed and drilled for a 4bolt main.... the rotating assembly is still good scat pre ballanced..good heads and cam....just assemble i get bearings,and gaskets...
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Melting Slicks
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You have to be about Half NUTS by now.
#8 engine.
If you are on a budget,
Leave it 2- bolt main.
Very few people in the USA or anywhere in the world can correctly fit stock or aftermarket straight 4- bolt or splayed 4- bolt main caps.
Calibrated dial bore gauge tells all with all 5 main caps torqued down to factory specs or ARP fastener specs with their supplied Moly lube.
Center of mains to center of cam bearing bore should deviate less than -.005" from factory setting.
Main bearing bore can not deviate more than +.0001" from minimum Cleavite Bearing Master Catalog listed specification.
Checked at 6 & 12 O' clock & 15 degree axis either direction from there also.
All Main bearing bores must be parallel to each.
From #1 front main to #5.
.0005" or less desired.
If not,
You don not have a good engine foundation to build off for racing or high performance use.
#8 engine.
If you are on a budget,
Leave it 2- bolt main.
Very few people in the USA or anywhere in the world can correctly fit stock or aftermarket straight 4- bolt or splayed 4- bolt main caps.
Calibrated dial bore gauge tells all with all 5 main caps torqued down to factory specs or ARP fastener specs with their supplied Moly lube.
Center of mains to center of cam bearing bore should deviate less than -.005" from factory setting.
Main bearing bore can not deviate more than +.0001" from minimum Cleavite Bearing Master Catalog listed specification.
Checked at 6 & 12 O' clock & 15 degree axis either direction from there also.
All Main bearing bores must be parallel to each.
From #1 front main to #5.
.0005" or less desired.
If not,
You don not have a good engine foundation to build off for racing or high performance use.
Melting Slicks
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Sonic Testing any stock block for core shift is a must for racing use.
Endurance racing especially.
Road Race.
Aftermarket blocks should be Sonic Tested checked too.
My Bud Steve has a Sonic Tester.
Easy to use.
Every performance engine build,
The block gets hot tanked,
hand washed,
Magnufluxed,
& Sonic Tested.
No Exceptions.
Endurance racing especially.
Road Race.
Aftermarket blocks should be Sonic Tested checked too.
My Bud Steve has a Sonic Tester.
Easy to use.
Every performance engine build,
The block gets hot tanked,
hand washed,
Magnufluxed,
& Sonic Tested.
No Exceptions.
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From: Riverside County Southern California
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500 gal tank good for 225 miles of flat land
Pro Bono is no charge but, you can claim it as a tax deduction.
Money will always talk!
Le Mans Master
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- my warranty is 30 seconds or 30 feet which ever comes first - rust protection is not included
Racing is really hard on parts and it is expensive as a result......even if you keep within the designed limitations of the components they will have an early death (usually its ugly). At this point I recommend ordering a professionally built short block to suit then slap on the remaining stuff yourself. Keep the RPM within reason and it should live a minimum of 2 days.
Team Owner
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From: Riverside County Southern California
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2018 Corvette of Year Finalist
2017 C4 of Year
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Drifting
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From: Argillite KY
Maybe he's referring to the old saying that racers will help other racers. Back in my racing days we'd all get together non-race weekends and work on each others cars for beer and pizza. Friends off the track and competitors on the track. I like to think that's the way it should be because it saves everyone money......except that we did drink a lot of beer in the day.
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Burning Brakes
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From: VALENCIA PA
You provide all the machined parts and shipping both ways then I'll put one together for you but you can't take it over 2,000 RPMS....EVER
- my warranty is 30 seconds or 30 feet which ever comes first - rust protection is not included
Racing is really hard on parts and it is expensive as a result......even if you keep within the designed limitations of the components they will have an early death (usually its ugly). At this point I recommend ordering a professionally built short block to suit then slap on the remaining stuff yourself. Keep the RPM within reason and it should live a minimum of 2 days.
- my warranty is 30 seconds or 30 feet which ever comes first - rust protection is not included
Racing is really hard on parts and it is expensive as a result......even if you keep within the designed limitations of the components they will have an early death (usually its ugly). At this point I recommend ordering a professionally built short block to suit then slap on the remaining stuff yourself. Keep the RPM within reason and it should live a minimum of 2 days.
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Burning Brakes
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From: VALENCIA PA
Maybe he's referring to the old saying that racers will help other racers. Back in my racing days we'd all get together non-race weekends and work on each others cars for beer and pizza. Friends off the track and competitors on the track. I like to think that's the way it should be because it saves everyone money......except that we did drink a lot of beer in the day.