igmition start problem
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Drifting
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From: panama panama
Ok here is what I did today
Battery test from positive to negative pole. When crank. I get 12.2 volts
From the positive conector in the stater motor to the case of the starter crank I get 12.2 volts
Forgot to say .If battery is not under load. It show 12.5 volts
Battery test from positive to negative pole. When crank. I get 12.2 volts
From the positive conector in the stater motor to the case of the starter crank I get 12.2 volts
Forgot to say .If battery is not under load. It show 12.5 volts
Last edited by hitmanpty; Jan 21, 2012 at 10:17 PM.
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From: panama panama
Test from the trigger cable.
Positive to trigger on solenoid (s connector)
Negative on battery
I get 10.6 when crank
Forgot to mention, I delite the gear position switch
I find out that if my battery show 12.5 it meent battery is at 50%
Any way. Can some one tell me what can you figure out from this information
Positive to trigger on solenoid (s connector)
Negative on battery
I get 10.6 when crank
Forgot to mention, I delite the gear position switch
I find out that if my battery show 12.5 it meent battery is at 50%
Any way. Can some one tell me what can you figure out from this information
Last edited by hitmanpty; Jan 21, 2012 at 10:20 PM.
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Do you hear anything at solenoid when crank is attempted ?
Refresh my memory, is the push button start, gone ?
What is the voltage at trigger wire when not connected to solenoid, during crank ?
Refresh my memory, is the push button start, gone ?
What is the voltage at trigger wire when not connected to solenoid, during crank ?
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No noise from solenoid
Push bottom start is gone
I i think i did that test before install the starter. Dont remeber exactely. What was the reading but iam preTy sure it was over 12 volts.
Also. Just to make sure! I just took my battery to the test battery shop
And the person there say battery is ok. They also did a load test. And is ok
This was done today about 2 hours a go
Push bottom start is gone
I i think i did that test before install the starter. Dont remeber exactely. What was the reading but iam preTy sure it was over 12 volts.
Also. Just to make sure! I just took my battery to the test battery shop
And the person there say battery is ok. They also did a load test. And is ok
This was done today about 2 hours a go
Last edited by hitmanpty; Jan 22, 2012 at 11:22 AM.
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A poor electrical connection can give you volts on a meter, but not allow suffient current to do the job. That being said, you source of power from ignition switch, may not have have a good connection.
If you were to make a fused jumper wire from battery +,
to replace your yellow wire connection, it may help answer the question of a poor power connection.
If you were to make a fused jumper wire from battery +,
to replace your yellow wire connection, it may help answer the question of a poor power connection.
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From: panama panama
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Do not use the yellow wire for power, bypass that wire with one direct from battery. The power source from yellow, may be the problem.
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Well...you guy's get up earlier than me & have been making some progress.
Agent86's experiment (wire from battery to green/white wire) should show whether the ignition switch is the problem.
If it still doesn't start than there may be a problem with the purple wire---either a bad connection, frayed wire, or short in the cold start circuit? Or could it be the wrong solenoid?
Agent86's experiment (wire from battery to green/white wire) should show whether the ignition switch is the problem.
If it still doesn't start than there may be a problem with the purple wire---either a bad connection, frayed wire, or short in the cold start circuit? Or could it be the wrong solenoid?
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Just get back from the car. I connect a wire from battery to purple wire. Bypassin. Every thing. And nothing.
May be iam doing something wrong i dont know. But iam serously thinking of calling an electro-mecanic.
Iam very frustraded. I have done every posible test i can think ok. I know the schrmatic like the palm ok my hand.
I even learn to use a voltimeter.
I think the electro mecanic is in order. Iam waisting to much timt on this problem and not doing nothing on the rest of the car.
May be iam doing something wrong i dont know. But iam serously thinking of calling an electro-mecanic.
Iam very frustraded. I have done every posible test i can think ok. I know the schrmatic like the palm ok my hand.
I even learn to use a voltimeter.
I think the electro mecanic is in order. Iam waisting to much timt on this problem and not doing nothing on the rest of the car.
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Bummer Romulo. There's nothing wrong with getting help if it's available & you can afford it.
Where did you connect the bypass wire to the purple wire? At the transmission position switch? At the solenoid? Somewhere in between?
It sounds like the problem is between the solenoid and the connection.
Where did you connect the bypass wire to the purple wire? At the transmission position switch? At the solenoid? Somewhere in between?
It sounds like the problem is between the solenoid and the connection.
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Bummer Romulo. There's nothing wrong with getting help if it's available & you can afford it.
Where did you connect the bypass wire to the purple wire? At the transmission position switch? At the solenoid? Somewhere in between?
It sounds like the problem is between the solenoid and the connection.
Where did you connect the bypass wire to the purple wire? At the transmission position switch? At the solenoid? Somewhere in between?
It sounds like the problem is between the solenoid and the connection.
Any way i think i will get some expert help here. Again lost to much time on this problem
In case you wander. I did a continuity test on this wire. Purple wire end on the solenot. Just not sure if there is any home made connection betwen the 2ends
Last edited by hitmanpty; Jan 22, 2012 at 07:31 PM.
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Sorry to hear your getting no where, but it shouldn't be that hard to diagnose.
If you take that jumper wire from battery and go direct to solenoid, and it cranks, move to the next connection, and so on.
Did you try any other bypasses ?
Does it it still crank when you jump it from large stud to trigger wire stud ?
If you take that jumper wire from battery and go direct to solenoid, and it cranks, move to the next connection, and so on.
Did you try any other bypasses ?
Does it it still crank when you jump it from large stud to trigger wire stud ?
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I think you are getting closer.
After the gear selection switch. Acording to schematic. The purple wire go direct to solenoid interesting is the cable on the solenoid iterminal is not purplu. Look more like decolorate wire. Is more like faded orange.. I try to trace the wire back but is go begine the engine. And cant go on.
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Today i contacted a mecanic. Specialicing in electrical probles. On jueves. This week he will take a look ok the car. He will charge me $20 to see the car and give me and estimate on the repear. So i think i will do that and lear during the proccess
Mecanics Are not that spencive here. As in US.
Any way i will post the outcome here.
Mecanics Are not that spencive here. As in US.
Any way i will post the outcome here.
Last edited by hitmanpty; Jan 23, 2012 at 09:27 PM.