close to 12 Sec. 1/4
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close to 12 Sec. 1/4
last time i was at the track i ran a 13.05@110 the best time i have every ran. my setup is a 383 with a 219 cam, 113 heads (mild port) stock TPI and stock exhaust manifolds with true duels and flowmaster mufflers.
I felt the 13.05 was a very good run especial with poor traction off the line (2.0 60Ft).
i am currently in the proses of switching to a LT1 intake and hopefully this will put me solidly in the 12's.
i was just curious of the difference when changing from the TPI to the LT1 intakes from the guys who have done it. Did you see a big change in loss of low end torque or was the loss not to noticeable and just saw an improvement in top end performance?
Thank you
I felt the 13.05 was a very good run especial with poor traction off the line (2.0 60Ft).
i am currently in the proses of switching to a LT1 intake and hopefully this will put me solidly in the 12's.
i was just curious of the difference when changing from the TPI to the LT1 intakes from the guys who have done it. Did you see a big change in loss of low end torque or was the loss not to noticeable and just saw an improvement in top end performance?
Thank you
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Hey man, if you want 12s just throw some good tires on it and you have it. You have plenty of MPH to be deep in to the 12s.
Figure a good set of tires can take off .1 - .2 from your 60 foot which means .2 - .4 off your time.
Figure a good set of tires can take off .1 - .2 from your 60 foot which means .2 - .4 off your time.
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yea i know i am running nitto 555 right now and i do have a set of mickey T's but with the 6 speed i am worried about tearing something up, with being this close and not having everything done to the motor that i want (intake, headers) i think i will leave the mickeys off of it for now, i might get frogie and put time on for one pass though.
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Which version of the Nitto 555's though?
I was cutting 1.90's with a stock LS1 GTO anda 6-speed on them at full pressure.
You wont tear anything up if you dont just clutch dump. Also, you have a Dana 44 so you wont tear that out either.
What type of burn out are you doing?
I was cutting 1.90's with a stock LS1 GTO anda 6-speed on them at full pressure.
You wont tear anything up if you dont just clutch dump. Also, you have a Dana 44 so you wont tear that out either.
What type of burn out are you doing?
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last time i was at the track i ran a 13.05@110 the best time i have every ran. my setup is a 383 with a 219 cam, 113 heads (mild port) stock TPI and stock exhaust manifolds with true duels and flowmaster mufflers.
I felt the 13.05 was a very good run especial with poor traction off the line (2.0 60Ft).
i am currently in the proses of switching to a LT1 intake and hopefully this will put me solidly in the 12's.
i was just curious of the difference when changing from the TPI to the LT1 intakes from the guys who have done it. Did you see a big change in loss of low end torque or was the loss not to noticeable and just saw an improvement in top end performance?
Thank you
I felt the 13.05 was a very good run especial with poor traction off the line (2.0 60Ft).
i am currently in the proses of switching to a LT1 intake and hopefully this will put me solidly in the 12's.
i was just curious of the difference when changing from the TPI to the LT1 intakes from the guys who have done it. Did you see a big change in loss of low end torque or was the loss not to noticeable and just saw an improvement in top end performance?
Thank you
She is now heaps faster with 8 psi boost and 383 bottom end just less tractable off the line.
A mini ram set up should help you with a wilder camshaft profile, no need for a hot cam with the TPI setup as she will choke past 5,500
If you want to rev to 7,500-8,500 yes go mini ram, if you do not want to go past 6,000 keep the tpi and get better tires / diff gearing to hook you up better. remember usable power tpi mild camshaft 1,200-5,500rpm Mini ram and wild camshaft 4,000-8,500
so decide if you want a road car or race car.
I had car in the past that would rev to 8,500 rpm but was a pig to drive on the roads.
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OP: Work on your burn out and launch. You should be able to go sub 2.0/60' with your current set up and that will get right into the 12's. I agree that your 110 trap is additional evidence that your car has a 12 in it.
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From: Anderson IN
i know the car as a 12 in i did pull a 1.94 short time earlier but i only ran a 13.3 because i did not have my tune correct.
my goal is not to have a 8,000 RPM motor but a good solid mid range (6000 RPM) engine that with the Nitto 555 street tire can lay down a steady 12 second pass and i think the LT1 intake will do that epically for the cost compared to the aftermarket intakes.
also with switching to the LT1 intake i think that will help curb the low end torque and possible help me maintain a better short time (sub 2.0) because of the lack of a drag slick.
TLS: i am using the LT1 intake because i already had it, agreed i think if i was going to buy one it would be cool to convert the edelbrock LT4 intake.
my goal is not to have a 8,000 RPM motor but a good solid mid range (6000 RPM) engine that with the Nitto 555 street tire can lay down a steady 12 second pass and i think the LT1 intake will do that epically for the cost compared to the aftermarket intakes.
also with switching to the LT1 intake i think that will help curb the low end torque and possible help me maintain a better short time (sub 2.0) because of the lack of a drag slick.
TLS: i am using the LT1 intake because i already had it, agreed i think if i was going to buy one it would be cool to convert the edelbrock LT4 intake.
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Easy 12s with good traction. I'd even say mid 12s and maybe lower on a good weather day with that MPH. With my old TPI motor I regularly went mid to high 12s at 106 or so. Now, I do have an auto trans with a 2500 stall TC, so that obviously helps me get off the line pretty well. That being said, I still see no reason your car isn't capable of mid 12s with that MPH. BTW, go with the MT drag radials 
Coincidentally, my new engine sounds virtually identical to your's (383, 219 cam, ported 113s). I've only gotten to the track once so far, but it went 11.96 at 114 on the second pass and that was in July (hot). I'm hoping for mid 11s with the cooler weather..........any faster I'm gonna get booted off the track
Coincidentally, my new engine sounds virtually identical to your's (383, 219 cam, ported 113s). I've only gotten to the track once so far, but it went 11.96 at 114 on the second pass and that was in July (hot). I'm hoping for mid 11s with the cooler weather..........any faster I'm gonna get booted off the track
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TA: your getting me excited now talking about an 11 second pass with 113 heads i still need to get headers and the intake installed to let this 383 breathe
if i get to the point were i feel that tires would sink me into the 11's i would not be able to resist putting them on, breaking parts be damned lol.
if i get to the point were i feel that tires would sink me into the 11's i would not be able to resist putting them on, breaking parts be damned lol.
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last time i was at the track i ran a 13.05@110 the best time i have every ran. my setup is a 383 with a 219 cam, 113 heads (mild port) stock TPI and stock exhaust manifolds with true duels and flowmaster mufflers.
I felt the 13.05 was a very good run especial with poor traction off the line (2.0 60Ft).
i am currently in the proses of switching to a LT1 intake and hopefully this will put me solidly in the 12's.
i was just curious of the difference when changing from the TPI to the LT1 intakes from the guys who have done it. Did you see a big change in loss of low end torque or was the loss not to noticeable and just saw an improvement in top end performance?
Thank you
I felt the 13.05 was a very good run especial with poor traction off the line (2.0 60Ft).
i am currently in the proses of switching to a LT1 intake and hopefully this will put me solidly in the 12's.
i was just curious of the difference when changing from the TPI to the LT1 intakes from the guys who have done it. Did you see a big change in loss of low end torque or was the loss not to noticeable and just saw an improvement in top end performance?
Thank you
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From: Glenbeulah Wi
If you want to rev to 7,500-8,500 yes go mini ram, if you do not want to go past 6,000 keep the tpi and get better tires / diff gearing to hook you up better. remember usable power tpi mild camshaft 1,200-5,500rpm Mini ram and wild camshaft 4,000-8,500
so decide if you want a road car or race car.
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From: Phila., PA burbs
I have an Accel intake and AS&M runners. I haven't touched the governor in the trans so it still shifts at stock shift points........around 5200 or so I think. Believe it or not the dyno of the new engine shows it making power all the way to 6k, so I'm thinking I might benefit a bit from bumping up the shift points.
I wouldn't be too concerned about breaking stuff. You should already have a D44 in your car. Obviously stuff can still break, but at our power levels I wouldn't be overly concerned. I have very few issues since I put in the D44 and that's with 60' times in the 1.6 to 1.7 range.
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