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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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ZF 6-speed,looking into a new shifter for a winter project.Car is a 91.Any input will help. thanks
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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ZF 6-speed,looking into a new shifter for a winter project.Car is a 91.Any input will help. thanks
a PO put a B&M in my C5. Notch-y and doesn't always want to go into gear. Took it in and had it checked. Properly adjusted and everything. I'm gonna do a mod to lower the detent, but jeez, man.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:52 PM
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Love my Hurst!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hurst-391508...1a633f&vxp=mtr
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 12:16 AM
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Is the hurst shifter a lift ring or shift thru for reverse.Mine has the lift ring?
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 12:28 AM
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The Hurst is a crash thru reverse.

I have a Hurst in my 92... I drove the Hurst and B&M before I made my descision. If you can its the best way to decide.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:32 AM
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Another vote for the hurst loved it.

Drove an LT4 with a new B and M way too stiff nothcy and high effort.
Throw was tooo short just felt odd to me.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:31 AM
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You can replace your original shift rod with one from Zfdoc.com. He does a mod to the original that changes the fulcrum point. So you send yours in as a core. Just another option to consider. At least check out his sight, lots of good info.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:58 AM
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Another vote for the ZF Doc package. If I had a '91 OR any ZF with the lift-ring for reverse I would likely spend the extra $$'s and buy ZF Doc's modified shifter. It retains the lift-ring and accommplishes everything that the Hurst does I believe.

I've a KW Racing modification package that I've never installed that might be my other preference but I don't believe he offers it any longer. I believe his might have been the 1st with a product.

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ZF Doc is the only way to go to keep your lift ring. I have had the Hurst and did not like it for that reason. ZF Doc with BMW Motorsports oil and my shifts like a dream.
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Thanks for all the info guys. Now i just have to do some homework with the info i got..yet another way to blow thru some cash..lol..
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The ZF doesn't NEED the lift ring for reverse...

I've had 3 of the 4 offered, and drove the 4th for an extended period at a track day.

The Hurst was/is the best...bar none.

ZFDoc's comes in a close second...

Scotty White's was the first on the market...and I still have it in a box somewhere. I replaced it with the Hurst when I put the motor in.

Dead last was the B&M...WAY to notchy, too much shift effort. Never could get comfortable with it...and that was after 3 hours of track time in another friends car. The method they used to shorten the shifts took away the leverage of the fulcrum...and I just didn't like it.
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I cut a additional inch off my hurst. ST... I believe that is the perfect height.
I did cut my factory Eiffel tower shifter and angled it back a few degrees. With the reverse lock out.
If someone would like to try??

PS
95 - 96
ZF shifters eliminated the reverse lock out!

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What is the lift ring? I have a 96 LT4
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Originally Posted by Elrick
What is the lift ring? I have a 96 LT4
Your 96 ZF should not have a reverse lock out = lift ring
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Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
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95 - 96
ZF shifters eliminated the reverse lock out!
There's a difference internally in the detent also. Minor but it's there!
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Just had a good read on ZFdocs site,so the 89-94 zf had a fully synchronized reverse that made it possible to hit reverse at speed,that is why the lift ring was used to defeat this.He says its not i good idea to remove this option.So his is looking like a top choice so far.Any more input on this will help.thanks again,Dennis
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Keeping the ring is a nice option to keep but beleive me you wont accidentally go into R. Even I cant screw up that bad
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I have a Hurst. I love it. Bought it from atlanticspeed.com. They also have the correct shift patten if you want a ball shifter.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Keeping the ring is a nice option to keep but beleive me you wont accidentally go into R. Even I cant screw up that bad
I've been running a Hurst in my 94 for nearly 10 years and haven't came close to an accidental reverse shift.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Not that price would make me pick one over the other but the hurst is a good deal.I guess they both are a pita to install from what i have found doing a search on it.Hope its not as bad as my heater core job was,i almost sold the car over that one..lol.
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