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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eutu1984
The gap is in the middle and just about the same on both sides, I was looking at the original weatherstrip on a low mileage 86 C4 at a car cruise this weekend and its weather strip was thicker going down the sides of the B-Piller.
There you go. Something so small that most people would not even care about is left alone... so the manufacturer does not know or knows but does not care....thus selling stuff that isn't RIGHT.

Well with the gap even on both sides...that kinda tells me that your car is still square and correct. Possible shimming material may need to be used to space out the retainer on the 'B' pillar.

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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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I think thats what I may have to do is slot it or shim it, or try another B-Piller weatherstrip from another vender, I am hoping Willcox will get back to me. Here is a better shot that sows the materiel is thinner in the middle.

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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:09 AM
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Does it do that with the door shut and top off?

Also noticed the rear corner weatherstrip on the top doesn't look right.
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by samsonb
Does it do that with the door shut and top off?

Also noticed the rear corner weatherstrip on the top doesn't look right.
Yes it does the same thing with the top off.
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by eutu1984
Yes it does the same thing with the top off.
If when you open the door....at the very top outer corner ...where the top outer corner of your door glass contacts that 'B' pillar weatherstrip...push in on the 'B' pillar weatherstrip and feel how dense it is. If you have the originals there still...if this weatherstrip is too dense on the new one versus the original at that thick portion of the 'B' pillar weatherstrip. I seriously doubt that if you tilt you glass inwards that it will help much due to the density of the weatherstrip trying to push the glass out.

If like factory...when the door is shut with the window up...you should see that the weatherstrip gives way a little and seals...instead of the glass giving way.

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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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We did this today. I think possibly the issue might be part adjustment.. and possibly a stretch in the lower... I'm not sure, I wish we had the car here to help him figure it out.


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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 01:19 AM
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I don't like the fit of that "B" pillar weatherstrip in the video. The top of the weatherstrip doesn't transition correctly to the top of the Halo and looks collapsed and twisted?...

It also, kind of bothers me when he says, "To be honest with you, I don't see a problem?"...I wouldn't want that weatherstrip on my Vette...

I'll stick to the OEM weatherstrip...







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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Our goal with this video was to offer insight as to how we do the installation of this product and possibly solve the mystery that has plagued the original poster. Doing the installation with Kevin also refreshes my mind.

This product is something we have sold for a very long time without a history of issue. The history of successful installations, good reviews and recommendations from this forum speaks for the success of this product. Yes there are slight differences between the OEM and the CRC weatherstrip, and yes the OEM is by far the best weatherstrip ever made. (The B pillar alone from GM is higher than the entire CRC kit).

It is my understanding that the issues with the China Laytex weatherstrips have been solved but I’ve yet to see the end result. Our prior experience with this product was a nightmare and I look forward having the opportunity test fit them when they come off of backorder.

It was not our intent to offend anyone with the statement, "To be honest with you, I don't see a problem?" I’m not sure of another way to express this, I was just speaking what I saw. I could have cut that out of the video, but elected to let the video run un-cut until it was almost finished.

The top of the weatherstrip is one area of the CRC weatherstrip is almost spot on with the GM weatherstrip. It might be the angle of the camera, I'm not sure. Below is a close up of the two side by side.

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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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I was going to retry fitting the B-Piller weatherstrip according to willcox video but was not able do to the fact that I already glued it across the top . In the meantime I was able to fit a length of 1/4 inch rubber hose behind the sides of the B-Piller weatherstrip and this pushed it out to where it seals. I am happy with it the way it is and will leave it that way for now.
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Originally Posted by eutu1984
I was going to retry fitting the B-Piller weatherstrip according to willcox video but was not able do to the fact that I already glued it across the top . In the meantime I was able to fit a length of 1/4 inch rubber hose behind the sides of the B-Piller weatherstrip and this pushed it out to where it seals. I am happy with it the way it is and will leave it that way for now.
If your weatherstrip is in the track at the back edge of the glass...the vertical section of the 'B' pillar....nothing will change.

You might be able to 'bunch it up' a little bit...but I am more concern that when I install the 'B' pillar that the top corners are set so it will fit correctly with the targa roof and I apply a sealant under it where the two tracks almost meet and leaves a void showing the paint of the car.

GM used a dense black strip caulk in this area. It is not in the video above because I know Willcox was using it to prove a point and showing fit.

Best of luck.

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I'd send the weatherstrip back. You shouldn't have to shim it up with anything to make it seal!...Also, my weatherstrip was never glued into the channels from the factory...
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Originally Posted by GKK
I'd send the weatherstrip back. You shouldn't have to shim it up with anything to make it seal!...Also, my weatherstrip was never glued into the channels from the factory...
Sometimes a person has to do what they have to do in order to get a part to work that is not the same and the original.

If you had no glue holding your windshield and 'B' pillar weatherstrips in....it was a flaw from the factory....unless when you pulled it...it pulled the black coating off of your tracks...exposing the shiny metal...which I have seen and experienced....and possibly you just did not notice it. EVERY Corvette from 1984 to 1996 I have worked on has had glue on these weatherstrips...and that is the worst part of the job is getting the tracks clean. Consider yourself lucky if you did not have to remove old glue and weatherstrip. I wish I could have few from time to time that got out of the plant with no glue. It would almost seem like a vacation doing the weatherstripping replacement if I encountered that.

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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DUB
I will write this...only because I KNOW most of you who choose NOT to glue it in have NOT installed hundreds of weatherstrips....and have seen the effects of using no type of sealant of any type.

DO as you want...I really do not care if your car leaks or not. BUT...the glue is there for a reason...and it is not JUST to hold the weatherstrip in place.....It keeps water out of the track.and when your weatherstrip allows WATER into the track...and over time..it begins to rust away the heads of your retainers....and in turn begins to rust away your windshield frame...and the you get a LEAK and can not figure out WHY it is leaking where it should not be leaking...THEN...come back and tell me all about it.

DO whatever you choose....all I can hope for is that I do not get a car in my shop years from now with major structural damage due to rust...like I have seen and had to repair....where nothing was used and no inspection of the foam seals under the 3 trim pieces....especially if the windshield has been serviced...and I can almost bet...that is was not done correctly.

I DO wish all of you the best in installing these weatherstrips and getting them adjusted correctly.

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Why not coat the screw heads in the retainers with an RTV or something to keep water away? Could put on a thin coat on and around the screw heads and let that sit for a day or so before installing the weatherstripping.

Might could even use bedding and glazing compound instead.
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