Weather Strip Time
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Weather Strip Time
I finally ordered some weatherstrip from Willcox on Tuesday and it arrived today so first thing tomorrow I will be installing it and getting rid of the old ugly stuff. I will try and post pics.
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?????...no glue....I respectively disagree.
The windshield (A-pillar), rear (B-pillar) and targa roof weatherstrips are glued in position.
Also the very top ends of the door mains are glued.
Rear hatch glass...no glue.
The main thing are the small black push-in retainers need to be re-installed. The top retainer at the upper outer corners of the windshield frame are longer than the two and the bottom of the windshield/pillar area. Also there are the same type of push in retainers in the bottom ends of the B pillar weatherstrips.
DUB
The windshield (A-pillar), rear (B-pillar) and targa roof weatherstrips are glued in position.
Also the very top ends of the door mains are glued.
Rear hatch glass...no glue.
The main thing are the small black push-in retainers need to be re-installed. The top retainer at the upper outer corners of the windshield frame are longer than the two and the bottom of the windshield/pillar area. Also there are the same type of push in retainers in the bottom ends of the B pillar weatherstrips.
DUB
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http://tech.corvettecentral.com/2011...therstrip-101/
http://willcoxcorvette.com/repairand...elp.php?hID=20
I will try and take pictures but my camera is a cheap piece of junk, ether way I will be posting how it goes.
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Replace it on my '92 about a year and half ago. Did not us the adhesive and was glad that I did not. The weather stripping on the A pillar must have stretched slightly at the top corner as it leaked when water tested. Removed the push pin and adjusted it. No more leak. If it had been glued I would have had to buy a new piece or live with it. It has not leaked since.
The C channels hold it securely and the push pins/screws hold the ends with no problems. However, to each their own.
The C channels hold it securely and the push pins/screws hold the ends with no problems. However, to each their own.
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I am not certain if my came from CA or not but I was real happy with the price I got from Willcox, The weatherstrip is made by CRC and there considered the best (except the hatch weatherstrip no one in the USA makes it). I am just taking a break from removing the A-Piller weatherstrip. I will post pics later tonight.
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After removing the factory A-Piller weatherstrip there was glue across the top of the windshield and none down the sides except at the bottom. I may do the same thing as the factory, I will consider after test fitting and taking a break.
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Update
OK I just finished the A-Piller, B-Piller, and Hatch weatherstrip I still need to do the doors and I ended up removing the sun visors, Rear View Mirror and the inside trim on the A-Pillers, I decided I need to do some clean up work on those pieces before replacing. I am going to take a break and get back to work here soon, Well Maybe.
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Notes
All the weatherstrip so far has fit perfectly.
I decided not to use glue do to everything fitting so well and if I have leaks it gives me the option to remove and then apply glue.
Be wary of the yellow lithium grease under the hatch weatherstrip, it gets everywhere and is a pain to remove.
I was going to glue the corners of the Hatch weatherstrip to keep from tearing but realized I forgot to order the drain tubes for the corners so I will leave as is until I get back to that.
I decided not to use glue do to everything fitting so well and if I have leaks it gives me the option to remove and then apply glue.
Be wary of the yellow lithium grease under the hatch weatherstrip, it gets everywhere and is a pain to remove.
I was going to glue the corners of the Hatch weatherstrip to keep from tearing but realized I forgot to order the drain tubes for the corners so I will leave as is until I get back to that.
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I will write this...only because I KNOW most of you who choose NOT to glue it in have NOT installed hundreds of weatherstrips....and have seen the effects of using no type of sealant of any type.
DO as you want...I really do not care if your car leaks or not. BUT...the glue is there for a reason...and it is not JUST to hold the weatherstrip in place.....It keeps water out of the track.and when your weatherstrip allows WATER into the track...and over time..it begins to rust away the heads of your retainers....and in turn begins to rust away your windshield frame...and the you get a LEAK and can not figure out WHY it is leaking where it should not be leaking...THEN...come back and tell me all about it.
DO whatever you choose....all I can hope for is that I do not get a car in my shop years from now with major structural damage due to rust...like I have seen and had to repair....where nothing was used and no inspection of the foam seals under the 3 trim pieces....especially if the windshield has been serviced...and I can almost bet...that is was not done correctly.
I DO wish all of you the best in installing these weatherstrips and getting them adjusted correctly.
DUB
DO as you want...I really do not care if your car leaks or not. BUT...the glue is there for a reason...and it is not JUST to hold the weatherstrip in place.....It keeps water out of the track.and when your weatherstrip allows WATER into the track...and over time..it begins to rust away the heads of your retainers....and in turn begins to rust away your windshield frame...and the you get a LEAK and can not figure out WHY it is leaking where it should not be leaking...THEN...come back and tell me all about it.
DO whatever you choose....all I can hope for is that I do not get a car in my shop years from now with major structural damage due to rust...like I have seen and had to repair....where nothing was used and no inspection of the foam seals under the 3 trim pieces....especially if the windshield has been serviced...and I can almost bet...that is was not done correctly.
I DO wish all of you the best in installing these weatherstrips and getting them adjusted correctly.
DUB
Last edited by DUB; May 31, 2014 at 05:57 PM.
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Finished the Door weatherstrip, other than having to take the door panels off it was much less difficult than the rest, much less cleaning. I will finish the targa top weatherstrip tomorrow morning along with doing some cleanup work on the mirror and sun shades.
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I will write this...only because I KNOW most of you who choose NOT to glue it in have NOT installed hundreds of weatherstrips....and have seen the effects of using no type of sealant of any type.
DO as you want...I really do not care if your car leaks or not. BUT...the glue is there for a reason...and it is not JUST to hold the weatherstrip in place.....It keeps water out of the track.and when your weatherstrip allows WATER into the track...and over time..it begins to rust away the heads of your retainers....and in turn begins to rust away your windshield frame...and the you get a LEAK and can not figure out WHY it is leaking where it should not be leaking...THEN...come back and tell me all about it.
DO whatever you choose....all I can hope for is that I do not get a car in my shop years from now with major structural damage due to rust...like I have seen and had to repair....where nothing was used and no inspection of the foam seals under the 3 trim pieces....especially if the windshield has been serviced...and I can almost bet...that is was not done correctly.
I DO wish all of you the best in installing these weatherstrips and getting them adjusted correctly.
DUB
DUB
DO as you want...I really do not care if your car leaks or not. BUT...the glue is there for a reason...and it is not JUST to hold the weatherstrip in place.....It keeps water out of the track.and when your weatherstrip allows WATER into the track...and over time..it begins to rust away the heads of your retainers....and in turn begins to rust away your windshield frame...and the you get a LEAK and can not figure out WHY it is leaking where it should not be leaking...THEN...come back and tell me all about it.
DO whatever you choose....all I can hope for is that I do not get a car in my shop years from now with major structural damage due to rust...like I have seen and had to repair....where nothing was used and no inspection of the foam seals under the 3 trim pieces....especially if the windshield has been serviced...and I can almost bet...that is was not done correctly.
I DO wish all of you the best in installing these weatherstrips and getting them adjusted correctly.
DUB
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Pic's
Time for Pic's
here is the new weatherstrip from Willcox
The Old weatherstrip
Some of the tools
Best tool for scraping the old stuff off was a sharpened narrow chisel.
Removing Plastic Pins
Scrape, Scrape, Scrape.
All cleaned up
Installing
Supporting Hatch
This yellow grease is a pain if you get it where you don't want it, it is a pain to get off.
Strip in its place.
On to the doors.
Removing the plastic pins.
Almost done I will do the Targa Top weatherstrip tomorrow.
here is the new weatherstrip from Willcox
The Old weatherstrip
Some of the tools
Best tool for scraping the old stuff off was a sharpened narrow chisel.
Removing Plastic Pins
Scrape, Scrape, Scrape.
All cleaned up
Installing
Supporting Hatch
This yellow grease is a pain if you get it where you don't want it, it is a pain to get off.
Strip in its place.
On to the doors.
Removing the plastic pins.
Almost done I will do the Targa Top weatherstrip tomorrow.
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I still have a way to go spent close to 12 hours on it today, Hardest part is removing old stuff, after that takes takes ten minutes to install each piece, rest of time is removing all the plastic stuff, trim pieces, door panels, then re-installing, ext,ext.
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Ok I just went down in the basement were I have the targa top I pulled off the old weatherstripping and found there was no glue there and there is corrosion so I decided to use the glue on the weatherstrip after I Finnish the targa top tomorrow I will test fit everything and add the glue.
Thank You DUB for the advice.
Thank You DUB for the advice.
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I did my weather stripping last spring and I used a thin bead of black 100% silicon caulking under each metal track before I reinstalled them. Yes I removed them to make clean up easier. I also used the 3M adhesive/glue where ever GM had it on the original install. One other thing I would suggest is at the top of the windshield pillar between the two metal tracks there was a large amount of putty that helped to seal the transition from the top rail to the side rails. I cleaned a lot of this out and applied a liberal amount of the black silicon caulking in this area before installing the new stripping. It is located in the area where the one top button is installed. The original putty was very dry and I figured this area was a potential leak. I put enough silicon there that is squished out when I installed the weather strip. I just wiped up the extra and finished the stripping install. I installed the roof but only tightened it a little ways so it maintained the shape while it setup over night. The next day I tightened it the rest of the way and so far no leaks anywhere. Here is a pic of the area I'm talking about.
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Doesn't there need to be some sealant at the top two corners of the A pillar? As there is a break in the channels there at the corners. I don't think there would be enough pressure from the top to keep water from getting under the A pillar weatherstripping at the top corners.