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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Not sure if it is true but I heard some dyno guys can make it read stronger than it really is. Most people chase numbers on a dyno rather than use it to tune a car IMO.

Also IMO an honest shop that has a dyno would know by no the amount of cash you are paying for all this is not worth it. Including his big bill for playing with your car. Better off paying for a full tune up and fluid flushes etc.
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by unihusker
Approximate cumulative HP gain?

Custom tune - around 15hp
Magnaflow cat-back exhaust - 10hp
K&N air filter - 3hp
Mid America Motorworks Mass-Airflow-Sensor Housing - 9hp(they claim)

So, added up...looking at about a 37hp net increase?
I will throw my opinion in here. It is possible for a tune to add 10-15 hp on a stock car and the cat back could add another 10 hp. Only way to know is do a before mod and after mod dyno runs to see the net results.

Good luck!
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Old Jun 9, 2015 | 07:32 PM
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i'm new to this forum, not tech savvy. was just curious about HP stuff.... didn't expect replies inferring i'm a dumb-***...regret started this thread in the first place. some of you take this stuff too darn seriously.
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Old Jun 9, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I have no idea what your quote is supposed to convey here. The stock LT1 dyno'ed 263 hp. So what? Mine dyno'ed 279 stock...



They didn't "add up" the numbers, the dyno tested the car after the addition of each mod (w/o removing the previous mods).

Whatever they did, here is the bottom line: they spent ~$300.00 to get 13 hp. For that same amount of money, you could buy a cam, that would give you an honest 300hp or more. Diddle-f'ing around w/mass air meters, filters and mufflers is a waste of $$ if you're goal is HP.
This is a quote from the article about the after market MAF housing...if you think they're being decitful I suggest taking it up with the author. If I was looking for major HP, I would have just bought a 2015 then. Like I said...the threat was just meant to be fun and had a few questions in regards to what was printed.

"We were stunned when the Dynojet registered improvements of 9 rwhp and 7 rwtq-precisely what Mid America claims for the unit in its catalog. That the plastic aftermarket housing is lighter and conducts less heat than the aluminum stocker is an added bonus.
Aside from a forced-induction system or nitrous kit, this may be the first aftermarket part we've tested whose performance actually lived up to its advance billing. Even at its regular price of $99.95, this one's a steal."
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Old Jun 9, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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I know how you feel unihusker. There are some Richards here, but there is also a lot of knowledge about the C4 here as well. I'd be gone if I could find somewhere with the same amount of knowledge as these forums. I think I got more "Richardness" when I asked the same question.
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Old Jun 9, 2015 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stVetteFinally
I know how you feel unihusker. There are some Richards here, but there is also a lot of knowledge about the C4 here as well. I'd be gone if I could find somewhere with the same amount of knowledge as these forums. I think I got more "Richardness" when I asked the same question.
Appreciate it. The fact of the matter is that I don't know what I'm talking about and these type of forums make the learning process fun...most of the time, that is.
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Old Jun 9, 2015 | 10:07 PM
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No one is being a dick here, guys...at least not in this thread. People don't like facts....simple as that. Especially so, when people have spent their money, are psychologically bought into something, and now their being told...the facts. Facts have been provided in this thread, OP may not like them...but I am very, very sure, that he has not in any way, been called a "dumb-***". I haven't seen that word posted until the OP posted it.



Originally Posted by unihusker
didn't expect replies inferring i'm a dumb-***...
No one called you a dumb ***. No one implied it either, but lets examine what really happened here:
1. You asked if you can add up hp of parts that typically don't add meaningful hp. This same question has been asked a million times here. You can't "add up hp" and those parts typically don't do much -especially for the money.

2. Veterans respond for the "millionth" time, trying to HELP PREVENT YOU FROM WASTING YOUR MONEY, with good, sound advice.

3. You come back debating what has been posted, and you cite a mag article where they spend $300 to gain 13hp. -basically a meaningless amount.

Now this comment:
Originally Posted by unihusker
If I was looking for major HP, I would have just bought a 2015 then.
Soooo what ARE you truly trying to accomplish in this thread? You don't really want hp, but you're happy to spend money? I don't "get it". I "get" that not all folks want 500 hp. I "get" that on one of the parts they gained the actual advertised amount (unusual, but in that case, w/that car, they did and it amounted to ~3%)....but I've never met anyone who wanted to spend more than they needed to, to meet their hp goals. Sorry if the knowledgeable veterans of this forum offended you w/their good advice.

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Old Jun 10, 2015 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
No one is being a dick here, guys...at least not in this thread. People don't like facts....simple as that. Especially so, when people have spent their money, are psychologically bought into something, and now their being told...the facts. Facts have been provided in this thread, OP may not like them...but I am very, very sure, that he has not in any way, been called a "dumb-***". I haven't seen that word posted until the OP posted it.



No one called you a dumb ***. No one implied it either, but lets examine what really happened here:
1. You asked if you can add up hp of parts that typically don't add meaningful hp. This same question has been asked a million times here. You can't "add up hp" and those parts typically don't do much -especially for the money.

2. Veterans respond for the "millionth" time, trying to HELP PREVENT YOU FROM WASTING YOUR MONEY, with good, sound advice.

3. You come back debating what has been posted, and you cite a mag article where they spend $300 to gain 13hp. -basically a meaningless amount.

Now this comment:
Soooo what ARE you truly trying to accomplish in this thread? You don't really want hp, but you're happy to spend money? I don't "get it". I "get" that not all folks want 500 hp. I "get" that on one of the parts they gained the actual advertised amount (unusual, but in that case, w/that car, they did and it amounted to ~3%)....but I've never met anyone who wanted to spend more than they needed to, to meet their hp goals. Sorry if the knowledgeable veterans of this forum offended you w/their good advice.
Good Lord...this is absurdly ridiculous!

I couldn't care a less what the eventual net increase on my car is big or not will be...just wanted to create a FUN thread and speculate the end result when I get it back this week.

I didn't know a tune and exhaust mods were considered a waste of money. Further, I did ask if anyone thought it a waste of money either.

I didn't ask for anyones advise...I asked a question.

I saw the article and was just trying to speculate what the net gains would be based upon their methodology. I'm happy with whatever..it's not that big of a deal.

I'm well aware one needs $$$ for significant mods.

I was just making a comparison to the posted article.

I said dumb-*** inferred....matter of subjective opinion.

I very much appreciated advise from anyone, but not being schooled about WASTING $$. I didn't ask anyone's opinion on how to spend my money.

Offended?? Please...only liberal sissys get offended.

As mentioned I'm a newbie...not my fault this may be the millionth time the subject has been brought up.

Don't bother trying to analyzing my post. I say what I mean and mean what I say.

nuff said on this thread....moving on

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Old Jun 10, 2015 | 07:54 AM
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A lot of good folks in here willing to help with a vast amount of knowledge. But when you ask something like how fast is my car or should I believe everything I read. Is right up there with your wife asking you does this make my butt look big!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by unihusker
Good Lord...this is absurdly ridiculous!
You're right about that!


Originally Posted by unihusker
just wanted to create a FUN thread and speculate the end result when I get it back this week.
So, what's FUN about it? You asked a question taht's been asked a million times. Is THAT "fun"? Then when you got sincere responses...ya ARGUED with them. Is THAT "fun"?? Where was the "fun" part of this thread?


Originally Posted by unihusker
I didn't ask for anyones advise...I asked a question.
Right, then you started arguing w/the answers. Was that the "fun part"?


Originally Posted by unihusker
I saw the article and was just trying to speculate what the net gains would be based upon their methodology.
You misunderstood their methodology. We tried to explain that.


Originally Posted by unihusker
As mentioned I'm a newbie...not my fault this may be the millionth time the subject has been brought up.
You're absolutely right, that it's not your fault that it's been brought up before. There is no way you could know that...other than doing a search. What IS your fault, is arguing w/the answers that you were provided, as a noob by senior veterans....then getting butt hurt about the responses. Ya ARE new here, so keep that in mind when guy who know WTF they're talking about, are telling you how it is.


Originally Posted by unihusker
I say what I mean and mean what I say.
Right. THAT must be the "fun part".

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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
You're right about that!


So, what's FUN about it? You asked a question taht's been asked a million times. Is THAT "fun"? Then when you got sincere responses...ya ARGUED with them. Is THAT "fun"?? Where was the "fun" part of this thread?


Right, then you started arguing w/the answers. Was that the "fun part"?


You misunderstood their methodology. We tried to explain that.


You're absolutely right, that it's not your fault that it's been brought up before. There is no way you could know that...other than doing a search. What IS your fault, is arguing w/the answers that you were provided, as a noob by senior veterans....then getting butt hurt about the responses. Ya ARE new here, so keep that in mind when guy who know WTF they're talking about, are telling you how it is.


Right. THAT must be the "fun part".
I thank you for your input...and have a nice day.
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Yep...yep. Probably not a bad call there.
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I'll bet you've been waiting a long time for the perfect thread to post this on..am I right???
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
A lot of good folks in here willing to help with a vast amount of knowledge. But when you ask something like how fast is my car or should I believe everything I read. Is right up there with your wife asking you does this make my butt look big!!!!!!!!
does the "should I believe everything I read" thing apply to whatever you write as well?
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Originally Posted by unihusker
does the "should I believe everything I read" thing apply to whatever you write as well?
Yes.........
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