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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 03:50 AM
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Well one of my headlight motors died a while back ago. I tried a few things to repair it, and eventually bought a rebuilt unit. It still won't open with the rebuilt unit. This was quite a while back ago, and life got in the way. Can't recall everything I attempted, but I do recall replacing three relays as well but still no luck. I was beginning to suspect the rebuilt one was defective as well, as I plugged it into the socket of the other headlight which still opens, and it does not work there either. Is this an effective way to test it, or is there some polarity blah blah type issue to consider? Thanks!
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P.S. This is on an '86 coupe!
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Do you hear any noise from the motor at all?
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
Do you hear any noise from the motor at all?
Yes...from what I remember, it made a bit of an intermittent hum type sound in short bursts.
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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Does it do anything differant if you turn the **** to change positions and try? Does the **** turn freely?

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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Does it do anything differant if you turn the **** to change positions and try? Does the **** turn freely?
Do you mean the **** that opens it manually? If so, no...the **** turns, and does move the headlight...but the motor does not engage?

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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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When you replaced the motor, did you also replace the 3 bushings and nylon gear attached? If it hums for a short period and stops, and you it off or on again, and it hums again, it may be binding. Maybe in the linkage? It should drive until it hits a stop in either direction and the resultant voltage spike shuts it off.
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Originally Posted by racerseks
Do you mean the **** that opens it manually? If so, no...the **** turns, and does move the headlight...but the motor does not engage?

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Ok your getting there that **** will spin with the motor when the motor is working.
might have got a bad one. Are the grounds good?

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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
When you replaced the motor, did you also replace the 3 bushings and nylon gear attached? If it hums for a short period and stops, and you it off or on again, and it hums again, it may be binding. Maybe in the linkage? It should drive until it hits a stop in either direction and the resultant voltage spike shuts it off.
No...I figured they were replaced in the rebuild. It came with a warranty, so I figured if I open it, it might void the warranty.

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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Ok your getting there that **** will spin with the motor when the motor is working.
might have got a bad one. Are the grounds good?
No, I don't think I did. It was quite a while ago. How do I check the grounds?
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Just reread you pluged it I the working side and did not work. I would try this again might be to late for the warranty. Spin the **** all the way both ways and feel for binding.

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Originally Posted by racerseks
No...I figured they were replaced in the rebuild. It came with a warranty, so I figured if I open it, it might void the warranty.

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They should have, I only asked in case you bought just the motor and not the gear assy attached. It sure sounds like you got a bad one, or the wiring from the connector to the motor is suspect. The fact that it makes noise leans more toward binding. For 100% check you could move the working one over and connect to the side that isn't working. It would eliminate having more than one problem.
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If you're sure you got a good connection when you tried the motor on the other side, this may not apply, but this is in the under hood fuse block:


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Originally Posted by racerseks
P.S. This is on an '86 coupe!
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When you replaced the motor, did you also replace the 3 bushings and nylon gear attached?
Gents, this is an '86! No bushings! Those bushings are only in the '88- '96! These symptoms in an '84 - '87 tell me it's probably a Limit Switch problem, but may be the motor brushes. To find this in a "guaranteed" replacement headlight motor is strange. By swapping side-to-side tells me it's not a relay problem. (No relays in the '88 - '96, either). Try cleaning the limit switches. Use a light weight white grease, like Lubriplate or CRC StaLube on the motor bearings and gears. Lube on the motor bearings is very important! I'm presuming you still have your original headlight motor?

Check out this link:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...placement.html


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I have no experience with an 86, but if they have limit switches that open to stop the motor, that would be an excellent place to start.
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Just reread you pluged it I the working side and did not work. I would try this again might be to late for the warranty. Spin the **** all the way both ways and feel for binding.
Thanks for reading it again. Tried it, but no luck. Warranty is still in effect though...
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
They should have, I only asked in case you bought just the motor and not the gear assy attached. It sure sounds like you got a bad one, or the wiring from the connector to the motor is suspect. The fact that it makes noise leans more toward binding. For 100% check you could move the working one over and connect to the side that isn't working. It would eliminate having more than one problem.
Yea, thanks for reminding me. I planned to try that last time to 100% eliminate things, but didn't follow through.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
If you're sure you got a good connection when you tried the motor on the other side, this may not apply, but this is in the under hood fuse block:


Couldn't hurt to check. Can you tell me where I'd find that fuse block? Have not worked on the car in a while, and my memory is a bit foggy. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy
Gents, this is an '86! No bushings! Those bushings are only in the '88- '96! These symptoms in an '84 - '87 tell me it's probably a Limit Switch problem, but may be the motor brushes. To find this in a "guaranteed" replacement headlight motor is strange. By swapping side-to-side tells me it's not a relay problem. (No relays in the '88 - '96, either). Try cleaning the limit switches. Use a light weight white grease, like Lubriplate or CRC StaLube on the motor bearings and gears. Lube on the motor bearings is very important! I'm presuming you still have your original headlight motor?

Check out this link:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...placement.html

Ah, that was a good catch! Life has kept me busy, and I didn't realize that either. No, I swapped the original. I will check out your link, as I am not familiar with a "limit switch". Just wasn't sure if I should open the motor, since it is still under warranty. Thanks!
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As I said, I'm not familiar with an 86, but look for switches that are changed at the full end of travel in each direction. I wouldn't think they would be in the motor, but maybe someone who does will let you know.
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