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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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I have a comprehensive build on my 93 Coupe find it here ( https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ld-thread.html) w/long tube headers, 3 inch exhaust, an x pipe, no cats and some MagnaFlow mufflers. The drone is pretty bad so I'm going to do something about it. My first thought it to throw a Corsa system at it. One issue with this is that I only need the mufflers (they don't seem to sell just mufflers). For the C4, Corsa only has 2.5 inch inlets for the C4. So I have a couple of questions. Is the neck down to 2.5 inches going to affect my system much? How tuned are the Corsa innards to a specific engine?
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You've built a performance engine. Why be bothered with drone?

Just go to the Corsa catalogs and find a muffler that meets your specs. Doesn't need to be for a Corvette.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
You've built a performance engine. Why be bothered with drone?

Just go to the Corsa catalogs and find a muffler that meets your specs. Doesn't need to be for a Corvette.
Yea amazingly I don't like painful resonant frequencies in the cabin...Imagine that?
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 03:19 PM
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I have a 3" cat back system on my '93. I believe its a Billy Boat system? Anyway the drone was quite bad around 1400 - 1700 rpm so as an experiment I made a couple of restrictors to reduce the internal diameter by 1/2 of one outlet on each side, this significantly reduced the drone and doesn't seem have affected the performance at least for normal street driving. The restrictors are located inside the exhaust where the tips change to round pipe and held in by a grub screw so that I can remove them easily.
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
You've built a performance engine. Why be bothered with drone?

Just go to the Corsa catalogs and find a muffler that meets your specs. Doesn't need to be for a Corvette.
Unfortunately, Corsa doesn't sell mufflers only. They only sell complete exhaust systems for specific vehicle applications.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
You've built a performance engine. Why be bothered with drone?

Just go to the Corsa catalogs and find a muffler that meets your specs. Doesn't need to be for a Corvette.

Call Corsa up and talk to Jim (if he still works there) and let us k ow how hard he laughs. Cora’s only sells complete systems. They don’t want anybody cobbling up a bastardized system and then complaint and saying it is an issue with a Corsa component.

There is nothing wrong with using a Corsa on a high output motor. I’m pushing close to 500 at the wheel with headers/cats/Corsa.

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IDK how well it will work in this application. You could install 3 inch flex pipes between headers and front pipes. These are the high temperature rubber with ss mesh shielding type, they are still cheap compared to new exhaust. The flex pipe works on single exhaust. Installing reducers isn't going to have a large effect on performance. They were common place in the pre cat days.
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Originally Posted by TA
Unfortunately, Corsa doesn't sell mufflers only. They only sell complete exhaust systems for specific vehicle applications.
Originally Posted by ChumpVette
Call Corsa up and talk to Jim (if he still works there) and let us k ow how hard he laughs. Cora’s only sells complete systems. They don’t want anybody cobbling up a bastardized system and then complaint and saying it is an issue with a Corsa component.

There is nothing wrong with using a Corsa on a high output motor. I’m pushing close to 500 at the wheel with headers/cats/Corsa.
They do sell something called a Corsa Crate Muffler. It's hard to find on their site....I ran across it accidentally this afternoon. I'm going with two of the 3inch mufflers and some dynamat.

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I have a Corsa exhaust system in the for sale section if your interested. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...t-14116-a.html
The Corsa system will handle all the power you can throw at it and no drone.

Originally Posted by Jaye Bass
I have a comprehensive build on my 93 Coupe find it here ( https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ld-thread.html) w/long tube headers, 3 inch exhaust, an x pipe, no cats and some MagnaFlow mufflers. The drone is pretty bad so I'm going to do something about it. My first thought it to throw a Corsa system at it. One issue with this is that I only need the mufflers (they don't seem to sell just mufflers). For the C4, Corsa only has 2.5 inch inlets for the C4. So I have a couple of questions. Is the neck down to 2.5 inches going to affect my system much? How tuned are the Corsa innards to a specific engine?
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http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...%20Systems.pdf

This is a copy of a presentation that Marc Haibeck has done on the LT5 engine exhaust options on a ZR1. You may find something that makes sense for your application.

On my 91 ZR1, I put a set of Stainless Works headers and a full Corsa from headers to rear. I'm very happy and no drone.

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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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how about using stock mufflers?
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Originally Posted by vette196
how about using stock mufflers?
Stock mufflers will not drone. However they may be a bit (pretty small) restrictive. OEM Mufflers are pretty good right out of the box.

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I bought two Corsa 3" Crate mufflers and a coupla tips.
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Originally Posted by Jaye Bass
I bought two Corsa 3" Crate mufflers and a coupla tips.
Problem will be solved.
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Originally Posted by Jaye Bass
I bought two Corsa 3" Crate mufflers and a coupla tips.
How much were they?
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vette196
How much were they?
expensive...329 a piece plus the two tips so a total of 900.
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Originally Posted by TA
Unfortunately, Corsa doesn't sell mufflers only. They only sell complete exhaust systems for specific vehicle applications.

Good point, but did I say buy a new muffler only from Corsa?

Find one that meets your specs. Then go out and purchase a used set.

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All this "chasing the drone" after customizing any exhaust is tiring, frustrating, and eventually expensive, compared to buying a Corsa system at the start! I'll do this for sure on my next future C5 Vette. On another subject regarding drone and the C4 clamshell window hatch area: I still believe a glass/plexiglass "bulkhead panel" placed behind the front seats (from floor to headliner) would create a drone-free cabin with most exhausts...somebody needs to fabricate this and test it out...not me.

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You could try fabbing up some drone eliminators or resonance tubes. Thats what I ended up doing with my OBX system but it will restrict your exhaust.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...tor-tubes.html
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Originally Posted by eutu1984
You could try fabbing up some drone eliminators or resonance tubes. Thats what I ended up doing with my OBX system but it will restrict your exhaust.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...tor-tubes.html
Hence spend a little extra now, and don't worry about drone again.
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