Totally Pumped up!
Burning Brakes
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (Joe90)
Mine will run a .760" lift @ the valve...w/ 1.7:1 Jesel shaft-rockers
The machinist's software says 770 FWHP....we'll see if we can stretch it to 800 HP with some tweaks. :D
The machinist's software says 770 FWHP....we'll see if we can stretch it to 800 HP with some tweaks. :D
Ron
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (arandy)
:eek: Man, keeping track of this thread is making me feel like my stock Track 1's won't cut the mustard when I finally build my motor... :) You guys are really building some beasts. :cool:
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (arandy)
In a sense I will be going to a solid axle, which the full spool. But it will still be IRS. Jeb has run his and other like Turbovette into the low9s and even 8s have been seen on the IRS. I think its stronger than people give credit to it. With the spool and elimination of the small spring clips, I believe it will take a hell of a pounding. If the 1/2 shafts start to fail, which I doubt will, based on their diameter, and shortness then Jeb is also working on some chro-moly ones, or even his cyroed ones should be fine. :cheers:
Red 90, Yeah they should be some pretty power squirl cages :D :thumbs:
Red 90, Yeah they should be some pretty power squirl cages :D :thumbs:
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From: Austin Texas
Re: Totally Pumped up! (RonRed89)
Not too sure yet. It will be one of the DFI systems, most likely the FAST one.
Ski...I found my set of 30# SVO injectors yesterday...thought I'd lost them in the shop.
I'll give them a shot first and see if they do the trick before I go bigger. I got them cheap, flowed & matched so I couldn't complain but they were wayyyy too big for the 355 I was putting in the car at the time.
[Modified by Joe90, 8:13 AM 1/9/2004]
Ski...I found my set of 30# SVO injectors yesterday...thought I'd lost them in the shop.
I'll give them a shot first and see if they do the trick before I go bigger. I got them cheap, flowed & matched so I couldn't complain but they were wayyyy too big for the 355 I was putting in the car at the time.
[Modified by Joe90, 8:13 AM 1/9/2004]
Drifting
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (Joe90)
Damn fellas... I just can't wait for all of this stuff to come to fruition! We all need to get together at one of the big events this year and scare the **** out of everyone!!!
I'm busting my azz on these intakes and after they're through I need a little direction from you guys. What of these next four things would ya'll like to see next:
1) Swap conversion to install a TH400 or TH350 into the C4 while retaining the ORIGINAL c-beam (unmodified).
2) REAL headers... Big, like 1 7/8" or larger.
3) Chromoly half shafts
4) Bolt it (hopefully) solid axle setup.
Let me know cuz when I'm done with the intakes I'm starting on another project for C4's...Hell, if nobody wants to cater to US for C4 specific performance parts, I will...
-Jeb
I'm busting my azz on these intakes and after they're through I need a little direction from you guys. What of these next four things would ya'll like to see next:
1) Swap conversion to install a TH400 or TH350 into the C4 while retaining the ORIGINAL c-beam (unmodified).
2) REAL headers... Big, like 1 7/8" or larger.
3) Chromoly half shafts
4) Bolt it (hopefully) solid axle setup.
Let me know cuz when I'm done with the intakes I'm starting on another project for C4's...Hell, if nobody wants to cater to US for C4 specific performance parts, I will...
-Jeb
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (jburnett)
Jeb,
Provided the rear stays in one piece in my car. I would LOVE !!! To put a T350 in mine. So my vote is #1 without a doubt. We found a guy that builds KILLER 350/400s in Ohio, which run cars in the 6s.....yes 6s. His price with a trans braked 350 is only 1245.00. He said the 400s are stronger, and are good to 6s where the 350s will take 8s all day long. For that price I would order one right along with Dad had I an easy install with it.
I have been reading some VERY interesting chassis setup information as of late. I think I have our cars pretty well figured out, as far as how to dial in the rear suspensions. I would like to talk with you some time about what you think of my logic. I think it is very sound and pretty straight forward.
It has to do with the 1/2 shafts and the camber of the rear wheels. Playing with the two I think you could get nearly as efficient as a solid axle setup. Its pretty in depth to explain my thoughts/procedure I plan to deploy this spring on my car.
:cheers:
Provided the rear stays in one piece in my car. I would LOVE !!! To put a T350 in mine. So my vote is #1 without a doubt. We found a guy that builds KILLER 350/400s in Ohio, which run cars in the 6s.....yes 6s. His price with a trans braked 350 is only 1245.00. He said the 400s are stronger, and are good to 6s where the 350s will take 8s all day long. For that price I would order one right along with Dad had I an easy install with it.
I have been reading some VERY interesting chassis setup information as of late. I think I have our cars pretty well figured out, as far as how to dial in the rear suspensions. I would like to talk with you some time about what you think of my logic. I think it is very sound and pretty straight forward.
It has to do with the 1/2 shafts and the camber of the rear wheels. Playing with the two I think you could get nearly as efficient as a solid axle setup. Its pretty in depth to explain my thoughts/procedure I plan to deploy this spring on my car.
:cheers:
Drifting
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (ski_dwn_it)
It's really nice to see you guys making all
this mods and sharing this with the rest of us.
My goal is much lower than where you are going with your cars
but I would sure like to have stronger trans in my car
so my vote is also #1.
Jeb, it would be great to see what will your intake make
vs superram on 74219 cam equipped 350 or 383 engine.
:chevy :chevy :chevy
[Modified by Sliding, 7:49 PM 1/9/2004]
[Modified by Sliding, 7:51 PM 1/9/2004]
this mods and sharing this with the rest of us.
My goal is much lower than where you are going with your cars
but I would sure like to have stronger trans in my car
so my vote is also #1.
Jeb, it would be great to see what will your intake make
vs superram on 74219 cam equipped 350 or 383 engine.
:chevy :chevy :chevy
[Modified by Sliding, 7:49 PM 1/9/2004]
[Modified by Sliding, 7:51 PM 1/9/2004]
Drifting
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From: Little Rock Arkansas
Re: Totally Pumped up! (Sliding)
Whew...I'm glad ya'll said #1 cuz it's actually the other thing I'm working on right now and directly involves MY car as the guinea pig. So, I'll go pick up a couple of TH400 and TH350 empty cases to use for mockup...
The trick to getting a C4 to hook is ALL in the suspension geometry. The camber and caster are imperative on these cars because the suspension has so much ability to "move." I've found that several degrees of positive camber allows the car to flat patch the tires when the weight transfers and it squats... If you've got the car setup for negative camber or at 'O' what happens is that when the weight shifts and the car squats the tires push outwards and you lose contact with the track surface. Fortunately our cars are VERY adjustable in the rear so you can really work on them to make them bite.
-Jeb (I'm leaving now- gotta go weld some stuff)
The trick to getting a C4 to hook is ALL in the suspension geometry. The camber and caster are imperative on these cars because the suspension has so much ability to "move." I've found that several degrees of positive camber allows the car to flat patch the tires when the weight transfers and it squats... If you've got the car setup for negative camber or at 'O' what happens is that when the weight shifts and the car squats the tires push outwards and you lose contact with the track surface. Fortunately our cars are VERY adjustable in the rear so you can really work on them to make them bite.
-Jeb (I'm leaving now- gotta go weld some stuff)
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (ski_dwn_it)
JProvided the rear stays in one piece in my car. I would LOVE !!! To put a T350 in mine. So my vote is #1 without a doubt. We found a guy that builds KILLER 350/400s in Ohio, which run cars in the 6s.....yes 6s. His price with a trans braked 350 is only 1245.00. He said the 400s are stronger, and are good to 6s where the 350s will take 8s all day long. For that price I would order one right along with Dad had I an easy install with it.
Ron
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (ski_dwn_it)
Are those pits I see in the picture of the combustion chamber or is it some strange light reflection?
Very nice flow numbers. Can't wait to see your times. :cheers:
Here is the combustion chamber.
:cheers: :cheers: :thumbs: :auto:
Very nice flow numbers. Can't wait to see your times. :cheers:
Here is the combustion chamber.
:cheers: :cheers: :thumbs: :auto:
Melting Slicks
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (torquejunky)
its going to move i almost have the same set up as you the only thing is i
got the AFR 215 raised runner head and my heads flow 320 intake and 235
exhaust my car did 10.2 with the wrong converter it was only 2500 and 3:07
gears but now i got 3800 yank and a 392 gears im hoping it will go mid 9
with batter tuning and i still got spray on the car thats never been used not
ready for it yet scared :thumbs: :steering:
got the AFR 215 raised runner head and my heads flow 320 intake and 235
exhaust my car did 10.2 with the wrong converter it was only 2500 and 3:07
gears but now i got 3800 yank and a 392 gears im hoping it will go mid 9
with batter tuning and i still got spray on the car thats never been used not
ready for it yet scared :thumbs: :steering:
Burning Brakes
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From: Mesa Az
Re: Totally Pumped up! (ski_dwn_it)
Im finally back from Indiana: just got done driving in. This is the best damn thing I have seen/done since I left Tuesday.
This is going to be neat to see how this all pans out over the next few monts.
This is going to be neat to see how this all pans out over the next few monts.
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Re: Totally Pumped up! (red L98)
Torque junkie, NO these heads are flawless, through and through. I am not sure what that is showing up in the pictures. :skep:
Redl98, HOLY CRAP! Man that make me feel much better.
I have many questions for you. I was thinking about going with the high ports, but then found these Brodix Heads. I couldn't justify the added costs and potential trouble (heads etc) the little more airflow would justify.
Anyways. If you like answer the questions here or to my email ski_dwn_it@yahoo.com
1. What does your car weight?
2. What intake you running
3. RPMS?
4. 60' times?
5. MPH?
6. Specifics of your setup. compression etc.
Sorry for all the questions, Corky and I are trying to be conservative with our guestimates so we are not disapointed, but my gut say we are going to be FLYING. If you can answer some of the above questions, it will give us a much better idea where we will land.
One last question: Any dyno sheets?
Thanks man. I appreciate your input! :cheers:
Redl98, HOLY CRAP! Man that make me feel much better.
I have many questions for you. I was thinking about going with the high ports, but then found these Brodix Heads. I couldn't justify the added costs and potential trouble (heads etc) the little more airflow would justify.
Anyways. If you like answer the questions here or to my email ski_dwn_it@yahoo.com
1. What does your car weight?
2. What intake you running
3. RPMS?
4. 60' times?
5. MPH?
6. Specifics of your setup. compression etc.
Sorry for all the questions, Corky and I are trying to be conservative with our guestimates so we are not disapointed, but my gut say we are going to be FLYING. If you can answer some of the above questions, it will give us a much better idea where we will land.
One last question: Any dyno sheets?
Thanks man. I appreciate your input! :cheers:
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From: Canton MI
Re: Totally Pumped up! (ski_dwn_it)
1. What does your car weight?
2. What intake you running
3. RPMS?
4. 60' times?
5. MPH?
6. Specifics of your setup. compression etc.
hey ski_dwn_it first i want to wish u good luck u need to chill your car
should do what your hoping if everything goes right
ok ..
1- my car is 3225 lbs
2- im running single PLATE INTAKE built by roush racing
3- i pass 1/4 mile at 6200 still got 800 rpms to go for nitrouse
4- my mph is 144
5- i have after market dart block forged internals JE pistons , manley
rods,cola crank total seal rings , all machine work done by rouse racing the
heads are AFR 215 raised runners the cam is comp cam not sure about the
specs but its a soild roller trans is 700r4 from art carr yank 3800 converter
and dana 44 with 392 gears i also got the fast engine managment and yes i
have dyno sheets ill try to post them up but the only problem is that im away
from home im in college and dont know when ill be going back ifhome :chill: :flag
if you need to know more things you can give me a call on my cell # 1734-968-6455 :thumbs:
[Modified by red L98, 2:13 PM 1/10/2004]