Why would someone scale back any potential HP in an engine especially that size?? That doesn't make sense to me

Chris

 

I have just cought wind of this thread - I have said it before and will say it again.....
I have used none of your cars in a contest of any kind, nor have I said negative things about them! quit using mine please!

If any of you wish to use my car troubles this year ( which I have been slowing it down due to safety gear also )
Please do so to my face when I see you there (period)
My car has only seen 122 this year and went 11 teens best.
I have added a good amount of weight and been fighting traction problems this year, So what! MPH seems to have dropped off since?
Problems? Maybe
I have been moving tune around alot trying to slow car to 11.5's
so have not had much option to run full out without getting yelled and and threatened.
Actually one day i reduced timing to 26 degrees total and still trapped 120, this week added it back and ran 119 hmm. So what!

Jims car runs awsome! I have told him so. Do I wish to compare ? No!
Cork I have praised your car over and over - Don't make me look like an *** please.
Ski I have done the same for you, why do you insist on bringing up my advantages with weather ? I ran well, Its over!
KVU ,I appreciate the nice words but please do not put me in this situation.

as always

 

Er, must be why they're running 14's ...

 

Oh my god I just read the post over there and its making my side hurt. Now I supposedly ruined my entire motor last year. Do you TGO guys just make it up as you go or what?

My motor was in PERFECT condition, and if you would like to request the buyer of it to reply here. I would certainly do that in a second. He not only bought my motor, but also the cam later after, and eventually wanted to buy the entire setups off me, but I had already promised the top end to someone else. He offered me BIG money for everything. More than I made on it selling it as a top and bottom end, but a promise to the other guy I would not break.

So you might want to go over to your wonderful mystical tuning land and clarify that little point, since I think you were the first to bring it up, but I'm sure you'll forget to CORRECT yourself once again. We'll see if I am wrong again about you.

Your post where you "told the moderater" is A-Typical of your immaturity we are all dealing with here. And the way everyone, including the mods just on the famous bandwagon is again pure immaturity.

Not of the you so called experts in tuning have a car that is even remotely impressive by any stretch of the imagination. Well at least the imaginations of the people that know better. I know that you all think your screaming in your own minds. But the reality of it all is, you are all clueless in every aspect and that is why it burns you up so bad to see corky, myself and others running good. You guys see 1/100 of the entire picture and as people learn more they see it more and more.

When you come on here with something worth talking about then I and others will start answering your questions. Till then, your wasting your time.

Also a bit of a suggest to you. You seemed when I met you like a young guy with alot of desire to learn and succeed. I can tell you right now that your heading down the wrong path with those fellas on that sight. This is entirely a serious suggest to you and that is to be your own man, and think for yourself - don't be one of their messengers. There is ALOT these guys don't know, which is obvious to most of us. I can only say that you going to get stuck in a rut over there and never get out. Voicing your opion like I did over there will most likely land you banned like me since they can't prove you wrong. But I would rather be ousted an be alone, than be a follower anyday.

Now do not take that last paragraph as degrading. It was seroiusly a suggestion. You have some potential/passion obviously, don't waste it thinking like others.

I am now done with this thread. Call me anything you like. The truth is well known here. As far as over there, well they can think whatever they wish or makeup any stories they want (motor ruined) etc to make themselves feel better more adequate...the people I care about (here) know the REAL story.

Now onto our regular scheduled viewing.

 

Said I wasn't going to respond again, but out of respect for 87ta, I wanted to clarify that my mention of his car was because of the gross misquote of information over there stating that he ran 6mph faster than we did. No disrespect was intended and if taken tom, my appologizes.

End of newsflash....

 

tom same here kvu brought your car in to this discussion we did not over at tgo if you have a beef better take it up with him i know you told me you were trying to slow it down

 

87 ta,
If you read the post, KVU brought your car up. Personnally, I am looking forward to your install of a roll bar so we can see what that beast can do.
Jim

 

My engine is not scaled back. It's an early 70's 400 with '71 truck/smog heads. It cam out with about 175hp. I just changed the cam and intake and I'm getting 340hp/412tq at the flywheel. My best run so far has been 13.1 @ 104,I didn't even go wot in first. Right now the stock heads are the bottleneck. Just bought some good heads and will have faster track times very soon


Ski, I mentioned beating a stock C5 beacuse one might consider a stock corvette as some type of benchmark. As you would always bring up the cost of things, I would consider it(a C5) one in terms of cost vs performance. My car will outperform one in every catagory besides braking, for now. Might not mean anything to you though. I have to run fast, in your mind, for you to respect what I say. You are just that type of person. I know people in stl can be that way too.. I just feel bad for you because you'll never take the time to honestly learn something, cause most people doesn't run as fast as you. Nobody is on the top for you to talk with . Must be lonely up the, pal.

Look at all the things you ASSumed.....

This is a quote from you earlier in this thread. You was the one that brought up Tom's name in this thread, over here. I didn't do it so dont try to pin it on me. What kind of crap are you trying to pull?
Admit it, I did teach you some stuff about tuning. I'm sure you are still using my "maf table method".

I did have speed density and had no use for your bin. I just was curious what you did. As everyone can read, you didn't do too much.
-quote from you at TGO[These next runs were 11.15@123 w/ 1.53 60' & 11.14@123.27 /w 1.53 60' times. Pretty decent for a car that only has 6-WOT passes under its belt. And vertually no tuning and running MAF.

This leads me to my point. I first don't think MAF hold your back one bit. I am yet to see a car with SD run substantually better after swiching over to SD from MAF. I can nearly bet that my car would not run nearly as good with SD. And if you can find one area to improve on this tune I would kiss your Azz in front of the entire grand stand at any track you prove it to me at.

I have yet to touch the MAF tables and never most likely will touch them or anything else in the tune. ]

No, actually it was more mature than the guy JUST trying to start trouble. I don't need your whipping boy in my face. If you don't want him speaking for you then maybe you should tell him so.
to corky, you are wrong. Check this thread, your pal brought him up. Dont try to start something between Tom and I. We are friends. Nice shot though



Now let talk about those injectors

 

Look, you are right. Everyone is happy with assato chips
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=885488

 

Oh Ok

Wasn't sure why such a large engine wasn't putting out at least 1HP per cube. Just seemed kind of low for such a large block.

I guess once you remove the physical restrictions and redo the prom you'll be where you want to be.

Chris

 

Since when has the Corvette Forum become a place to have retarded bickering matches?

 

Thanks, it will put out over 1hp per ci very soon. I'm going to port the heck out of these world product castings I just bought. Then assemble and install them. Should be done in a couple of weeks.

 

Maybe he can have Jesse burn him a prom to get that 1hp/cube.

 

I will bet any amout of money that Jesse can't do that.

 

I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that if you can't make 1hp/cube you have bigger problems than the program in your PROM.

 

I'm not taking sides here but I think part of the problem Jesse is that after reading all of these posts one could be led to believe that you think you are the worlds greatest tuner and that noone is as good as you or knows as much as you do. I'm not saying that you think that and I don't think you are that way at all, I'm just playing devils advocate here. I'm not a doubter in your tuning ability but just remember there's always someone out there that knows more than you.

Sometimes you've just got to do this and brush it off man, it's the internet and everyone is a genius and a tough guy!

 

Timmy,

There is no doubt in my mind that there are people more experience and can tune better. I would be very nieve to think that way. Anyone that knows me personally will tell you that is not the way I am.

As a matter of fact, I was approached my a guy that actually had the same thing happen as me earlier on the TGo.

This guy was worked for NASA as an electrical engineer, built all his own logging equipment, connections, etc. This was not ALDL type loggin either. Deviced apparatuses that connected directly to the distributer etc to show exactly the "True total timing" not what the ECM reports as timing. It was some pretty intense stuff, and he had the information/results to back it up.

There is no doubt in my mind this guy was HIGHLY educated and not only had a very good grasp on how engines function, but what tuning was about.

I would not have wanted to go on a Jeopardy Tuning show with him. So I am well aware there is alot to be learned. Hell I usually learn something neat and new everytime I open my laptop up on my setup.

But much like the gentleman mentioned above, which I shared many conversations with, mainly surrounding the MAF vs SD debate, which he agreed 100% with me about, as well as the injectors theories I share. He had some serious results with his car to show he infact was not all theory.

Its always a challenge to sort out the good information from the bad. I have been here long enough for most of you to see the sun through the clouds that might come and go.

 

KVU

You started a post over in TGO about SKI. and said Quote: This is not intended to be a flame thread. Then proceed to flame him every time you posted in the thread. Then when someone comes to his aid you say Ban him he's just here to make trouble Why? Because they don't follow lock step with you?

Capitalism works thank you "SDI" lol

 

This is intense!

I love the drama!

 

I see flywheel hp. What about the amount of torque applied to the rear wheels?