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Melting Slicks
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have you seen Jeff Schwartz's LS2 TT Ultima GTR?? very impresive!
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/alien.htm
and the can-am version of the GTR
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/ttls7canam.htm
and some more of the stuff he builds
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/products.htm
having said all that i hear that the Race Car Replicas Superlite Coupe has a big enough engine bay to house a BBC! im thinking a 1000bhp Big Block could work pretty well in the back of one!
Chris.
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '08
drove a new C63 AMG and was EXTREMELY impressed!
i hear ya guys on some of these kit car builds but what really tickles my fancy is modern techie luxo cars w/mega trq and hp....
twin turbo C63 with its 6.1L motor....OMG the tranny in that car is amazing along with killer throttle responce....
let me dream some more!
i hear ya guys on some of these kit car builds but what really tickles my fancy is modern techie luxo cars w/mega trq and hp....
twin turbo C63 with its 6.1L motor....OMG the tranny in that car is amazing along with killer throttle responce....
let me dream some more!
Safety Car
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drove a new C63 AMG and was EXTREMELY impressed!
i hear ya guys on some of these kit car builds but what really tickles my fancy is modern techie luxo cars w/mega trq and hp....
twin turbo C63 with its 6.1L motor....OMG the tranny in that car is amazing along with killer throttle responce....
let me dream some more!
i hear ya guys on some of these kit car builds but what really tickles my fancy is modern techie luxo cars w/mega trq and hp....
twin turbo C63 with its 6.1L motor....OMG the tranny in that car is amazing along with killer throttle responce....
let me dream some more!
Le Mans Master
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From: Port Arthur, Texas 77642
drove a new C63 AMG and was EXTREMELY impressed!
i hear ya guys on some of these kit car builds but what really tickles my fancy is modern techie luxo cars w/mega trq and hp....
twin turbo C63 with its 6.1L motor....OMG the tranny in that car is amazing along with killer throttle responce....
let me dream some more!
i hear ya guys on some of these kit car builds but what really tickles my fancy is modern techie luxo cars w/mega trq and hp....
twin turbo C63 with its 6.1L motor....OMG the tranny in that car is amazing along with killer throttle responce....
let me dream some more!
Mercedes has it's displacement officially listed as 6.3L in brochure...hence C63. Definetely a "drifter" 
Wait till the new C63 DTM comes out
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '08
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Melting Slicks
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Melting Slicks
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hmmmm why dont you build your own black series SL65?? swap the box for something stronger and fit a set of proper turbos to the engine and turn the boost up!
brabus have had to peg back the torque on the V12 TT for some years now.
Chris.
PS. or you could fit the V12 into a vette!?!?!?!? lol
brabus have had to peg back the torque on the V12 TT for some years now.
Chris.
PS. or you could fit the V12 into a vette!?!?!?!? lol
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A C63 DTM is basically a Black Series C63. This would probably be set up like the SL65 Black Series in that they lighten the car up a bit and give it a few more ponies and charge you another $100k.
By the way Nick, the SL65 Black Series costs $320k! Hardly what I'd use for a project car to promote a high performance shop's talents!
Granted, there are only a couple big name performance shops for Benz such as Brabus, RennTech, of course AMG, so you'd be getting into a VERY Exclusive and high end market! People complain about Vette tax, try modding a Benz!
Here's a couple of examples:
Headers $4995
Carbon fiber air box $3895
RennTech ECU flash $3495
and the list goes on! I guess if you can afford a $320k car, these prices aren't bad, but seem a whole bunch too rich for me!
Good Luck on your choice!
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St. Jude Donor '08
A C63 DTM is basically a Black Series C63. This would probably be set up like the SL65 Black Series in that they lighten the car up a bit and give it a few more ponies and charge you another $100k.
By the way Nick, the SL65 Black Series costs $320k! Hardly what I'd use for a project car to promote a high performance shop's talents!
Granted, there are only a couple big name performance shops for Benz such as Brabus, RennTech, of course AMG, so you'd be getting into a VERY Exclusive and high end market! People complain about Vette tax, try modding a Benz!
Here's a couple of examples:
Headers $4995
Carbon fiber air box $3895
RennTech ECU flash $3495
and the list goes on! I guess if you can afford a $320k car, these prices aren't bad, but seem a whole bunch too rich for me!
Good Luck on your choice!
By the way Nick, the SL65 Black Series costs $320k! Hardly what I'd use for a project car to promote a high performance shop's talents!
Granted, there are only a couple big name performance shops for Benz such as Brabus, RennTech, of course AMG, so you'd be getting into a VERY Exclusive and high end market! People complain about Vette tax, try modding a Benz!
Here's a couple of examples:
Headers $4995
Carbon fiber air box $3895
RennTech ECU flash $3495
and the list goes on! I guess if you can afford a $320k car, these prices aren't bad, but seem a whole bunch too rich for me!
Good Luck on your choice!
If the customer's got $300K + for a car they don't really care about the cost.
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St. Jude Donor '08
It's much tougher in the financial services sector, manufacturing and other industries dependent on petroleum or credit worthiness.
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From: State of Confusion.
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The Money Shot
Actually this is only the "Black Series" motor, but will looks will probably be very close. The DTM series goes beyond the Black Series in the photos with a more "race inspired" look and less luxury
Here's a link to the 2004 CLK DTM, only 100 units sold worldwide
http://www.rsportscars.com/mercedes-...z-clk-dtm-amg/
click on the pictures, as you can see CF Heaven and Much More Aggressive Styling
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Le Mans Master
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From: State of Confusion.
Actually this is only the "Black Series" motor, but will looks will probably be very close. The DTM series goes beyond the Black Series in the photos with a more "race inspired" look and less luxury
click on the pictures, as you can see CF Heaven and Much More Aggressive Styling
I recently drove an MB C63 and they are pretty quick and much better built (seemed more solid) than the C55. I also went on the BMW drive for Susan G. Korman Cure for Cancer and got to drive a New M3, M6 and an M5!
In the M3, you have to hear the V8 spinning to 8400 rpm it's like music to my ears! Just one of those things that you have to experience! Granted it's low on torque, but it does roll out and it handles better than the Benz!
I'd think that for a track car, the BMW while lacking some power and some torque, would be better on a track just for the fact that it handles like it's on rails and has Great balance.
We were on the street, so I wasn't going to drive Crazy, but I'd have to say that if each one was taken to around a hundred, the Benz is quicker!
Now the C63 against the M5 would be different story! 