Not true any longer if your running the latest technology, and that would be NANO. No more bottle pressure drop what so ever and a 25% increase in top end power. Also, the nitrous tune will stay absolutely stable with NANO and not go into crazy land as the bottle pressure drops as per old school set-ups.


Ejones, the nitrous car will be the quicker/faster car in street/strip trim. Now that will change when approaching an all out build where the turbos are king. Here's an example of what can be done. My bone-stock LS6, no headers, ran a 10.85 with a small 125/135rwhp Dry N2O shot. I killed all of the comparable turbo and blower cars for years.

As far as the bottle running out, yes that happens. what i did was to mount two 15lb bottles in back, which now both have NANO kits on them. This quadruples the amount of runs/passes compared to a single 10lb bottle which is standard in most kits. Then on top of this, having NANO allows using all of the contents of the bottles. Again this can almost double the amount of runs compared to a set-up not using NANO. 30lbs of nitrous with NANO drops the amount of refills drastically. some will say, wow that weighs too much, but I say I don't care a $5 jet will counter any additional weight, lol.

Go for it, you will not be disappointed.
Robert

 

Here's a link with some insightful NANO facts. Actually since the intro of the NANO tech, the nitrous are doing better against the turbo cars, when considering race cars. This due to the fact that there is no longer any HP fall off on the top end and no change in tune parameters.

General NANO Info
Robert

 

Sorry I should have read all of the posts before responding, lol. I do carry the full line of NANO products and thus the link above. I do have some great package deals that include NANO kits as well as the latest and greatest safety features/controllers. We can know completely dial in our nitrous tunes ourselves with the need of a full tuner kit and laptop, though they are still nice to have. Let me know if I can answer any questions.
Robert

 

Nitrous.

 

Thanks for the link Robert. I think that getting nano will be a win win situation for meIm gonna pm you after I talk with my builder..

 

Don't make me laugh!: crazy: A nitrous car with comparable power will out ET & MPH that SC car every time. A SC car is running out of breath on the big end so it requires more HP (boost) just to come close to the MPH of a nitrous car.

 

I dont think a blanket statement like that is correct.

Even if the HP is the same, how does the TQ compare?

Are we racing autos or manuals? N20 is definately going to have an advantage if you're racing manuals.

An auto will never be "out" of boost like a manual would be.

and N20 will eventually run out, NANO or not..

 

Sorry, but after your statement about a supercharged car running out of breath on the big end, it's me who had to laugh!

If you've ever seen a Centrifugal dyno sheet, it's just getting started on the big end! The more the motor revs, the more power it makes! It's linear!

I won't argue with you about spray making KILLER traps and e.t's, but your statement about blowers laying down on top is wrong!

Here's an example: Please see post #33........................

Another example...............

Just thought that it's easier to show examples than to just spout out my opinion! It's more of a fact when I can give proof to back up my statement!

Please Have a Great Day!

 

Shows how little you know. Why do you think that at LSX shootout NOS cars can weigh 2800 pounds against the blower cars 3400? Because NOS cars can't keep up. Plain and simple.

 

If you want the power for track-use only, might as well go nitrous. Its cheap, awesome power and great torque. Sure you can use nitrous on the street if you want, but then you need to mess with proper bottle heat at all times, remote opener etc etc.

If you want a car that can be fast at the track yet still have gobs of power at the tip-of-your-toe at all given times, I'd look at a turbo/SC setup. If you want to go faster after that, add nitrous for track use only!!

 

Actually you have proven nothing. We are discussing nitrous and SC cars with comparable HP as the OP requested. Example A 550 HP nitrous car (much more torque) vs a 550 HP SC car. The nitrous car will out perform the the SC on the 1320' and that is in both ET & MPH.

When I said that SC cars run out of breath on the big end vs a nitrous car is true. The SC car doesn't fall on it's face,however,it does not maintain the MPH when comparing apples to apples (550 hp vs 550 hp).This is not an opinion but rather many years of observing others while drag racing.

Now if your talking PRO MOD where there are no limitations to the HP produced,the SC have been dominate in years past. How with the advancements in nitrous technology the playing field has leveled...we again have a two horse race.

 

So very true. With the advancements in technology concerning nitrous the gap is becoming narrower in all areas of drag racing. Wait till you guys see some of the stuff coming. It's a great time to be in to nitrous. Using the cars PCM for ultimate control has opened the flood gate of ideas and options. However, some nitrous companies still don't even understand the basic concept of how the dry technology works, lol, but can assure everyone reading along that this is the future of nitrous and EFI cars.
Robert

 

Very valid points, but until they invent bottles that you don't have to refill, I'll still stick with boost, but that's just my opinion!
I'll give it to you though that N20 does work and makes some SERIOUS power!

 

I have had my NANO in for a couple months now, never ran YET. Dyno tuning is scheduled for this Friday.
Before the NANO with the NOS plate system, bottle heater, and NO TUNE car ran 10.49 at over 134 mph on the 150 shot.
We expect once the car is properly tuned high 9's or very low 10's should be possible.
Cam and bolt-ons ONLY. LS1 heads are not even touched.

 

Best of both worlds is to have nitrous and blower. Bring on the nitrous down low with a 75-100 hit before a lot of boost is built up then shut it down once boost is up there. Hard to beat a combo like that.
But to the original question..nitrous will hit hard and fast before most boosted cars can get into decent boost while down low or launching unless the race is from a roll and boosted car is already tached up around 4K.

 

 

How's it going Mr Jones? Maybe when its all said and done we'll have to pit your 402 against mine Sorry I never called you back but I am STILL fighting belt slip so I really have nothing new to report. I think a 402 built for spray would be ugly!!!! With only 7 lbs I think the 150 shot would win. Hope it all goes smooth for you!! Keep in touch!

 

Im expecting it (402) to be finished in the next couple of weeks. Im being set up for a 250 shot of n2o. I may have to take a trip to Tx. once you get your belt slip Hopefully everything will come together for you soon.

 

250!!! Guess you're a fan of the phrase 'go big or go home'

 

The arguement that "nitrous cars are faster till the bottle runs out" is just ridiculous. Both cars are built for a certain purpose. A person that runs nitrous will generally carry an extra bottle or two (like I do) and really dont have to worry about running out of juice.

The only way I can see this arguement being valid is if you are a full time street racer which is illegal anyways so that arguement is null and voided again.

I have had both a KB Cobra and now I have the Corvette on a 100 shot and there is no doubt that the Corvette will absolutly kill the Cobra on the bottom end and through the 1/4 mile. Now... if you wanna go for a mile long race then you are looking for problems out of both cars. One being the load that fifth and sixth gear puts on the motor of both cars and the other is the heat the KB makes at 180+ mph's! I did 185 mph and was looking at 900*C+ temps and thats close to melt down!

Either way the arguements are a no win!