Basic question about differences between superchargers.
Drifting
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Wrong...It was because he did not want to break anything. Anybody looking at the video knows he left at least 1/2 second or more on the table. Better tires a hard launch and power shifting would most likely get a 9.xxx
They wanted great STREET performance and used the PROVEN most trouble free and reliable blower available.Never seen a centri on a Top Fuel or Funny Car? Oops!
I never saw a Top Fuel rail or Funny Car on the streets either. Oops!
Instructor
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I have had a Vette since I was 18 in one form or fashion. I have owned a 570 hp 368 ZR-1 for a year. I just bought a 2000 FRC with a Paxton Novi and that, to me, is the ****. I can drive around normally and get 20MPG and when I put it to the floor it is a tire eater. I dont take my cars to the track and I dont abuse them except for maybe beating the crap out of some unknowing poser you know where but I am having the most fun in a Vette I have ever had with this Novi. As far as anything else I know nothing.
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I ran a 12.09 in a showroom stock C5Z, 11.75 on slicks....mid 11 isn't all that impressive.
PD blowers are good on a truck thats towing. vettes are light, like to rev and belong with a centri....
don't worry one of these years we'll get track results from a PD blower.....we've only been waiting 3 for KB results and even longer for maggie results....eventually someone might do something productive...
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This was entertaining, thanks for the laugh's guys! 
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Fast on the track, is fast on the street, dominating the track, dominates the street.
Talk all you guys want, we deliver results, period.
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LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Fast on the track, is fast on the street, dominating the track, dominates the street.
Talk all you guys want, we deliver results, period.
(owned)
Last edited by DOUG @ ECS; Nov 20, 2009 at 09:35 AM.
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This was entertaining, thanks for the laugh's guys!
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Way back I used to run a 69 Z28 that ran mid 11's on the strip with slicks and a prepped track.
Got beat many times on the street by 13 sec. cars that pulled me low end because I could not hook up as well.
Again it all depends on how you plan to use the car.
At a car show last year I was parked next to a couple ov Vettes with Centris. We had are hoods up of course.
Guess which car they wanted to sit in????
Can't beat the bling of a polished Maggie.
Last edited by Vega$Vette; Nov 20, 2009 at 09:58 AM.
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This was entertaining, thanks for the laugh's guys!
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Fast on the track, is fast on the street, dominating the track, dominates the street.
Talk all you guys want, we deliver results, period.
(owned)
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Fast on the track, is fast on the street, dominating the track, dominates the street.
Talk all you guys want, we deliver results, period.
(owned)
No arguing with that..
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Melting Slicks
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First you said this:
and then this:
Based on your statements above one would think that low end torque will dominate all, but then you go on to say this:
so, you got beat by 13 second cars cause you couldn't hookup, but you still think more low end tq is what 'win's races'.
sorry, but no. 
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Race Director
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First you said this:
and then this:
Based on your statements above one would think that low end torque will dominate all, but then you go on to say this:
so, you got beat by 13 second cars cause you couldn't hookup, but you still think more low end tq is what 'win's races'.
sorry, but no.
and then this:
Based on your statements above one would think that low end torque will dominate all, but then you go on to say this:
so, you got beat by 13 second cars cause you couldn't hookup, but you still think more low end tq is what 'win's races'.
sorry, but no.
And if you think mid 11s on street tires is not respectable I would tend to believe your opinion is in the minority.
Let me see you have 50% more power, drag tires (probably slicks), Gears?? a sea level track and lots of seat time and you can pull a 58 year old geezer who's got a grand total of 5 runs in 35 years by a whole second and a half.
Now that's what I call impressive
btw I'm sure there are lots of guys running 7s and 8s that don't think much of your 9.98. Personally I think that is awesome but then again I'm the kind of guy that gives credit where credit is due.
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Back to original subject?
Today I test drove a C5 with Maggie. I didn't see any other mods than exhaust and Maggie. Boost pressure was 5 psi.
Unfortunately road was wet.
It was easy to handle, even with minimal friction. I could control the car with my right foot, even with high rpm. This car produced only 445 hp but about 800 Nm (~600 ft lb). I wonder how much power you can get out of that unit without rising the intake air temp too high or overruning the compressor?
Next I need a test run with almost stock centri so I know the difference..
Today I test drove a C5 with Maggie. I didn't see any other mods than exhaust and Maggie. Boost pressure was 5 psi.
Unfortunately road was wet.
It was easy to handle, even with minimal friction. I could control the car with my right foot, even with high rpm. This car produced only 445 hp but about 800 Nm (~600 ft lb). I wonder how much power you can get out of that unit without rising the intake air temp too high or overruning the compressor?
Next I need a test run with almost stock centri so I know the difference..
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I have always said for the Strip I'd go Novi.
Not always the case.
Way back I used to run a 69 Z28 that ran mid 11's on the strip with slicks and a prepped track.
Got beat many times on the street by 13 sec. cars that pulled me low end because I could not hook up as well.
Again it all depends on how you plan to use the car.
At a car show last year I was parked next to a couple ov Vettes with Centris. We had are hoods up of course.
Guess which car they wanted to sit in????
Can't beat the bling of a polished Maggie.
Not always the case.
Way back I used to run a 69 Z28 that ran mid 11's on the strip with slicks and a prepped track.
Got beat many times on the street by 13 sec. cars that pulled me low end because I could not hook up as well.
Again it all depends on how you plan to use the car.
At a car show last year I was parked next to a couple ov Vettes with Centris. We had are hoods up of course.
Guess which car they wanted to sit in????
Can't beat the bling of a polished Maggie.
Your contradicting yourself...
I guess I will continue,
fastestest 60'ing IRS C5/C6 = ECS Paxton (so much for that "no low end" thing huh?)
only IRS 346 in the eights = ECS Paxton
most proven, durable, and relaible supercharger kit = ECS Paxton
Just to make this clear, I am not a "Maggie hater", you just cant come in a thread and claim it as a performance leader. It is a good blower for low boost/show guys that are not ultimately concerned about performance. (or maybe those who need help picking up woman? - even not so good looking ones...)
It is just in my experience that a roots blower does not fit correctly with a Corvette, (and I'm not talking about the install) they are better suited for heavy vehicles, trucks, etc. That is where they really shine IMO.
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Back to original subject?
Today I test drove a C5 with Maggie. I didn't see any other mods than exhaust and Maggie. Boost pressure was 5 psi.
Unfortunately road was wet.
It was easy to handle, even with minimal friction. I could control the car with my right foot, even with high rpm. This car produced only 445 hp but about 800 Nm (~600 ft lb). I wonder how much power you can get out of that unit without rising the intake air temp too high or overruning the compressor?
Next I need a test run with almost stock centri so I know the difference..
Today I test drove a C5 with Maggie. I didn't see any other mods than exhaust and Maggie. Boost pressure was 5 psi.
Unfortunately road was wet.
It was easy to handle, even with minimal friction. I could control the car with my right foot, even with high rpm. This car produced only 445 hp but about 800 Nm (~600 ft lb). I wonder how much power you can get out of that unit without rising the intake air temp too high or overruning the compressor?
Next I need a test run with almost stock centri so I know the difference..
Of course it was easy to handle, it only made 445!!
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Last edited by Vega$Vette; Nov 21, 2009 at 09:01 AM.
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Have you ever driven a ZR1???
I have, and a good amount of seat time too, both street and track, and if you search my posts in the ZR1 section, you will see where I have posted a month or two ago that if I owned the ZR1 I would pull the roots blower OFF of it!!
The car itself is simply increadable, but the power plant stinks IMO, it feels flat on the low end from the super low compression, and the hoat soak!!! OMG, the car falls on it's face! It would actually lose over 50rwhp on back to back dyno pulls.
Which is why the car would only run 11.0's stock, when a std C6Z runs the same exact times. So where did all that HP go??? Goodbye... I guess it's off to a car show.
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This was entertaining, thanks for the laugh's guys!
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Fast on the track, is fast on the street, dominating the track, dominates the street.
Talk all you guys want, we deliver results, period.
(owned)
LSX true street winner = ECS PAxton
GTO nationals winner = ECS Paxton
Fastest supercharged LSx Corvette, or GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest IRS GTO = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS1 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS6 = ECS Paxton
Fastest stock botton LS2 = ECS Paxton
Most garanteed car to show you tail lights on any given race day... ECS Paxton.
Fast on the track, is fast on the street, dominating the track, dominates the street.
Talk all you guys want, we deliver results, period.
(owned)
Impressive records but:
Fast on the track is Fast on the track. Dominating the track, dominates the track.
Track and street are different animals.