Help! I finally got my 98 coupe from Maryland and I have a problem. Every time I start the car for the first time, I get "Pull Key - Wait 10 Seconds". As long as I leave it in Park, the engine keeps running, but if I put it in reverse or drive, it will die. After I pull the key and wait 10 seconds, the car starts up and everything is fine, until I shut it off again. Can anyone tell me what is going on? I tried to redo the codes on the FOB, but that didn't change anything. Any ideas?

 

Can you turn your steering wheel?

 

I can see from your membership date you missed the extensive numbers
of threads and post relating to this problem. This is a well know issue.
GM has issued two recalls for this issue There is another solution if you
don't want to do the recall, you can install a Column Lock Bypass (CLB).
But it must be installed when the column is not locked. Another bug in the
ointment for you is, CLB seems to be buggy on 98 year models.

Heres a search I ran on the Tech forum. This should get your started in
your education of this problem. Good luck!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...archid=1020104

Search from under General;
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...archid=1020102

 

Since you have an automatic, get the recall done as they will completely remove and replace the locking plate with a dummy locking plate and you will never have this problem again.

 

and Email sent. Good luck Dwayne.

What really sucks is he just got this car delivered Monday ... Welcome to Vette ownership buddy! Don't worry ... it'll be fine.

Dave Q.

 

I have a '99 Coupe and actually seen this message only one time but I have had other computer problems that I think are associated with my passenger door issue. Does the column lock thing have any other problems? Also since I am the second owner how can I go about getting the column lock recall?

 

Column lock problem as others said. I feel bad for you since you just got it. Were you the original owner or did you just buy it? If you just purchased it might be worthwhile talking to previous owner. Regardless get it to the shop.......spring is right around the corner. Good luck

 

Mine gave me that DIC code just the other day. Mine has been in twice for the recall on it.

I think what happend in this case, was I put the wrong key (another Chevy key) in first, then nothing happended, then pused the same (wrong) key in again, then figured out I had the wrong key. The third time (using correct key), it started, but as soon as I wen to reverse, engine quit (steering wheel DID turn) Got message.. Waited 10 seconds, re-serted the correct key, and all is well.

 

don't worry dude, same thing happened to me two weeks after I bought the car, either do the recall or get a CLB

 

Hasn't there been "issues" with the recall? I believe I've read that there has been. I wouldn't take my car to the dealer to change the tire! The CLB is easy to install.

 

It's not necessarily a column lock problem. As another member posted, it could be a security issue that is preventing the car from being driven. This can happen if the key pellet or ignition cylinder is dirty. If you have both keys, try the other one. Clean the resistor pellet with some alcohol.

Another thing that will cause this message to be thrown is a false start - turning the ignition key twice before the lock has had time to reset. It's in the owner's manual.

 

I want to thank you all for your input. As far as the wheel locking, I don't know, I just barely start moving when the engine dies and I apply the brake, put it in park and pull the key and wait 10 seconds. Actually, I look for it now before I put it into gear so I don't know for sure if the wheel locks. Some buddies of mine stepped me through how to check the alarm codes and I will do that this evening. But, you all are probably right, the column lock is most likely the culprit. I will do some more research on it tonight and get back to you. I will clean the key pellet as well.
Yea, I just got the car Monday. It was delivered to me in California from Baltimore Maryland so I can't send it back. Besides, it was used, but it only has 9,000 miles on it. It is just my dumb luck that it decided to do this now.
Anyway, I will get back to you later tonight.
My thanks to every one.

 

I had the same thing happen to me , it wasnt the column lock at all ,,

try some wd-40 [very little]in the key hole there some kind of pin in there that was getting stuck on me , i still had it fixed $400 all new ignition and key

 

I have a 98 vert with auto and have had the recall done. You can check to see if you have a CLB (column lock bypass) by removing the key and checking to see if your steering column locks. If it does not, chances are good you already have a CLB installed and this could be your problem. I tried two different CLB's and would get the "Pull key..." message every time I went to start the car. With the CLB disconnected I had no problems. Does your car start without the message on the second attempt? If it doesn't, it could be a dirty key pellet or the impending doom of column lock. Some 98's, mine included, have a communication problem between the CLB and the body control module (BCM) rendering the CLB ineffective. To check to see if the recall has been done, get your dealer to run the VIN. Theyre supposed to keep records of which cars were done. Good Luck.

 

Ok guys, here is what I have done and found. I put the key in the switch and the seat goes to the preset memory position. I check the wheel and it appears to be locked. I turn the key on (without starting it) and the "PULL KEY - WAIT 10 TEN SECONDS" appears. I can move the steering wheel back and forth a little. I then turn the key off and the wheel locks, no movement now. I remove the key and the seat goes back to the exit position. I re-insert the key after 10 seconds and the seat goes to memory position. I turn on the key and I get the normal "Corvette by Chevrolet" message followed by "Apply brake to Shift Gears" or something like that. Anyway, at that point I can start the car and it will drive normally. But if I were to start it while the "PULL KEY - WAIT 10 TEN SECONDS" message is displayed, the car will run as long as I leave it in Park. But as soon as I put it in Drive or Reverse, it dies.

Now, I also went through the Diagnostic Display mode and wrote down the following codes.

28-TCS - Traction Control System
C1221 LF Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0
C1222 RF Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0
C1255 EBTCM Internal Malfunction

A0-LDCM - Left Door Control Module
B2252 Key Cylinder Switch Fault
B2262 Horizontal Position Sensor Fit
B2264 Vertical Position Sensor Fault
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM

A1-RDCM - Right Door Control Module
B2283 Battery #1 Fault
B2285 Battery #2 Fault
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM

The following code showed up under "A6-SCM - Seat Control Module" in the car, but looking at the code listing, the number is listed under "60-IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster"
U1160 Loss of Communications with LDCM


Some of these codes cause me some concern. But I don't know if some of these codes are there because the car was not running. So, do you guys see anything that is a problem? Should I run the codes again with it running?

So, bottom line.... I guess I will buy a CLM and avoid the dealership. Now, who has them for the best price???????

Thanks again everyone for your help.

 

Maybe get a old priest and a young priest to talk to the car now.

I hope it works out to your satisfaction sir.

 

.....not that I'm going to vouch for the dealer who did the service for the recall, but that Vette was taken in for the column lock recall problem.

I'm the original owner of the Vette in question and have the service paperwork. I don't know if it would help, but I could scan and e-mail the service paperwork to you?

What's really puzzling me is that we had no problems driving the car to where the car carrier was located....and I can't imagine what could have caused a problem while it was being transported.....

-Jeff

 

Hey Jeff, Yea, I don't know what could have happened to it in transit.
I wonder if your dealer really did the recall repair on it or not. But since you took it in, and since there have been guys who said that they have had the same problems with it after the recall repair, I guess it is a good thing I went ahead and ordered the CLB. I don't know, we will start with the obvious and go from there. Thanks everyone.

 

Godd luck Dwayne with it. Like I told you in the E-Mail it more than likely the colum lock. You could have a weak battery giving you some of those codes. My battery was going bad and my old coupe had some crazy stuff going on installed a new Optima and ran like a new car.

 

With all the C5s I have had I only had the pull key message a few times. The reason you get this message is because of a mis communication between the cars computers. Its all tied in with the dreded column lock problem.