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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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I just had my '04 Z06 in for service - the original CLB recall had never been done on the car, but the dealer (who I actually trust believe it or not) said that my VIN wasn't showing the need to even do the CLB recall. I figured it was because it was a late build date for the 2004's (3/18/04) and they had "fixed" it by then.

Regardless, I was still going to get the CLB and install it myself based on all the recommendations in this Forum. Guess I won't do that now. Hope it doesn't lock up on me between now and when I bring it in for this new recall
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankTank
For all of you who are saying this is "OLD NEWS" and "Welcome to today" might want to read a little closer, according to this link, GM is now saying it will Remove the Locking Plate on Manual Cars also... not just Automatics

The previous recall for the Manual cars did not include this

Exactly. I had the first recall done and they did not remove the locking plate.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by C5~Missle
No.. its a new recall. Totally different than the past attempts.

Okay it a new recall but GM stepped upto the plate back in Nov 2004. Also he never mentioned it was a new recall.

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JDs00PewterCoupe
Exactly. I had the first recall done and they did not remove the locking plate.
I think this still just solves half of the problem with the 6-speed cars. I removed the lockplate and installed the GM harness K kit two years ago on my 04 Z06. Removing the lockplate keeps the column from locking, but if the actuator is still in the circuit without a relay to satisfy the BCM, I think if the actuator fails, the BCM will still shutoff the fuel.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilla
Okay it a new recall but GM stepped upto the pplate back in Nov 2004. Also he never mentioned it was a new recall.
GM may have "stepped up to the plate back in Nov 2004", but they struck out when it came to fixing the 6 speeds. Programming the fuel to shut off when (not if) the column lock failed is not my idea of fixing the problem. They have now finally admitted it is a defective design that needs to be removed (not fixed)...

Also if you followed the link he provided, you would have seen it was a new recall.

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Now all you manual transmission owners have to worry about some dealership nimrod mechanic thinking he still has to do the reflash because he knows it all or he is still working off the old recall sheet but knows the new one just adds the mechanism removal and he still reflashes your expensive tune. Watch out - Murphy's Law.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilla
Okay it a new recall but GM stepped upto the plate back in Nov 2004. Also he never mentioned it was a new recall.
I wouldnt classify their last attempt at dodging the bullet as "stepping up to the plate", more like trying to sneak around it at night when the stadium lights were off!

If I did the recall to my mn6 all it would do is shut the fuel if the column locked. I like this one a lot better, no plate, no possibility of ever locking. And I dont have to buy a CLB.

Now the hard part. Trying to decide if this is worth bringing the car to the local stealership and letting their mechs touch her!
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
Colum Lock Bypass has been and still is the solution.
Not entirely true..... Some '97 and '98 C5's can't handle the CLB. Some of those cars have had sooo many problems, the CLB had to be removed. For some unknown reason, the CLB works well w/ some of the early year cars, and fails w/ others...
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilla
Okay it a new recall but GM stepped upto the plate back in Nov 2004. Also he never mentioned it was a new recall.
Whats with all the bashing? Can't we all just get along?

Why would he need to mention it's a new recall? Maybe one should do research before he/she starts bashing someone...

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrC5er
Soooo......assuming that quite a few of us are NOT the original owners of our cars, how does GM plan to notify everyone? Without a campaign letter in hand, will they still honor the recall to anyone that shows up at their doorstep?
.......should, I was getting the old recall, based on my VIN, traced to my name...
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Some of you may remember this story:

I had a CLB in my 98 Auto. Took the car to the local GM dealer ( who I know personally, owns several vettes himself, and I trust completely) last summer for some other service. They informed me the recall had to be performed anyway due to liability issues. So they did it........my gripe was they didn't tell me about it until AFTER I PICKED UP MY CAR!

So far, no problems. I have even come to ignore the accuator motor noise. I have basically forgotten all about it, as it should be. Now I just enjoy my ride
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrC5er
Soooo......assuming that quite a few of us are NOT the original owners of our cars, how does GM plan to notify everyone? Without a campaign letter in hand, will they still honor the recall to anyone that shows up at their doorstep?
I went here:
www.mygmlink.com

I registered my 97 I just purchased in sept 05. You have to create a login/password at mygmlink.com, then register your vin#. You may also have to send your nearest gm/chevy dealer proof you own it. Since my 97 never had the old column lock recall done, I recently recieved a notice in the mail to have it done...of course with my MN6 I threw it away. I never installed a CLB either...AKA lucky. Now with this new recall, I may have it done.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginzo
This is terrific news for us mn6 people
Why? It's not a fix.. It's GM doing the cheapest thing they can do to stop any liability issues.
They still have no fix.. just a hack to disable it completely.

Myself and many have already bypassed the POS. They should have engineered a real fix and kept the feature intact
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by yoman
Whats with all the bashing? Can't we all just get along?

Why would he need to mention it's a new recall? Maybe one should do research before he/she starts bashing someone...

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Originally Posted by mrC5er
Part Number Description Quantity/Vehicle
89023816 Harness Kit, Strg Whl Theft Dtrnt Lk Shorting (US manuals and all automatics except export vehicles) 1


Does anybody understand why they would need to install a wire harness if they remove the lock plate? Seems to me that without the plate, who cares if the actuator motor still cycles. Sounds like they're removing the plate and installing an "OEM" column lock bypass at the same time.
Removing the lockplate keeps the column from locking, but if the actuator fails, the BCM will sense that the actuator is in the locked position and will shut off the fuel. The GM harness works just like the aftermarket CLB's and contains a relay to send a signal to satisfy the BCM to prevent the fuel from being shut off, regardless of what position the actuator is in. In fact, you can plug in the GM harness without connecting the actuator side, and the car will function normally.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Getting my 04 MN6 tuned Friday. If the dealer does this "new" recall will they need to flash the computer?
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT

I liked how it took GM 2 almost 2 years to admit they had an oil ring problem in their 2001 models. : Remember when they were telling everyone they were burning oil because they wre gettin on it too hard? Sadly, people actually believed them!
I look at the oil ring problem on my '01 as a lazy man's way of changing the oil every 4800 miles
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Originally Posted by C5~Missle
Why? It's not a fix.. It's GM doing the cheapest thing they can do to stop any liability issues.
They still have no fix.. just a hack to disable it completely.

Myself and many have already bypassed the POS. They should have engineered a real fix and kept the feature intact
Maybe they were too busy working on a fix for the fuel tank sensors
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