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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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OK, here is the deal. I need 2 Boards. They need to be 12 FT Length by 12 in width (IT could also be 8-10" wide) by 3" height (Thickness). It needs to be these dimensions. And I dont want to place 2 boards on top of each other to get the desired 3" height.

The typical Home depot, Lowes, etc have these boards no thicker than 2". Actually, they arent even 2" even though the signs claim they are

But here is one final requirement which is just as important. I need a board that is very light, I mean we are talking titanium light here.

Any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
The typical Home depot, Lowes, etc have these boards no thicker than 2". Actually, they arent even 2" even though the signs claim they are
It's called "nominal sizing" industry standard. Not a claim, it's fact. 2" x 12" = 1 1/2" x 11 1/2" Nominally sized.......
EDIT Don't "Intelligent Designers" have this info?
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
OK, here is the deal. I need 2 Boards. They need to be 12 FT Length by 12 in width (IT could also be 8-10" wide) by 3" height (Thickness). It needs to be these dimensions. And I dont want to place 2 boards on top of each other to get the desired 3" height.

The typical Home depot, Lowes, etc have these boards no thicker than 2". Actually, they arent even 2" even though the signs claim they are

But here is one final requirement which is just as important. I need a board that is very light, I mean we are talking titanium light here.

Any suggestions?

TIA
If you need 3" then get two 2x12's - actual thickness is 1.5" Stack them together and you have 3". Width will always be less than advertised. ( see previous post about nominal thickness) Or talk to the building supply people at a store of your choice. They may have an alternative to lumber that will work for you. Metal or high strength plastics.
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
But here is one final requirement which is just as important. I need a board that is very light, I mean we are talking titanium light here.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Balsa wood. Heck, they even use it in the C6 floor pans. Don't know how big Balsa trees grow though, and I'm sure even if they do get big enuff, a "full-sized" 3" x 10" x 12' piece is going to be a custom order.

PS-HINT: you might want to add what kind of strength you need to your design criteria too.
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I can help but first you need to tell me the most important thing..
what is the load and span requirments for these "Boards"
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT

But here is one final requirement which is just as important. I need a board that is very light, I mean we are talking titanium light here.

Any suggestions?

TIA
How about aluminum light??

72"x 14" x 4" aluminum trailer ramps, This is what I have. They fold off the trailer door ramp for extra length to get the car in.

http://www.pitproducts.com/assistramps.html


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Originally Posted by OUR97
If you need 3" then get two 2x12's - actual thickness is 1.5" Stack them together and you have 3". Width will always be less than advertised. ( see previous post about nominal thickness) Or talk to the building supply people at a store of your choice. They may have an alternative to lumber that will work for you. Metal or high strength plastics.
Well, thanks for the suggestion but I said in my posts that I DO NOT want to do that.
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Originally Posted by rwsr50
Balsa wood. Heck, they even use it in the C6 floor pans. Don't know how big Balsa trees grow though, and I'm sure even if they do get big enuff, a "full-sized" 3" x 10" x 12' piece is going to be a custom order.

PS-HINT: you might want to add what kind of strength you need to your design criteria too.
well its being used for ramp clearance for a lift so something strong to support a car until it gets over the lift.
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Originally Posted by rwsr50
Balsa wood. Heck, they even use it in the C6 floor pans. Don't know how big Balsa trees grow though, and I'm sure even if they do get big enuff, a "full-sized" 3" x 10" x 12' piece is going to be a custom order.

PS-HINT: you might want to add what kind of strength you need to your design criteria too.
yea, I thought about balsa wood. I haven't called any places to inquire about custom ordering though.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
How about aluminum light??

72"x 14" x 4" aluminum trailer ramps, This is what I have. They fold off the trailer door ramp for extra length to get the car in.

http://www.pitproducts.com/assistramps.html

I was thinking about aluminum last night when I was walking around LOWES looking for a solution. They didnt have anyhting close to what I needed. But I like your idea, except that its kinda pricey and your dimensions are only 72". I'll give them a call though.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I can help but first you need to tell me the most important thing..
what is the load and span requirments for these "Boards"
They have to be able to support the car to get it over the lift.
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It's called "nominal sizing" industry standard. Not a claim, it's fact. 2" x 12" = 1 1/2" x 11 1/2" Nominally sized.......
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Typical response from a Home depot employee
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Cut your desired profile out 1/2" plywood and duplicate it 7 times. Use these as stringers for both ramps and box them with additional plywood. With a couple of lateral braces, you should still be lighter than solid wood and less expensive than aluminum.
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
Typical response from a Home depot employee
I'm sure as you were typing, you knew my reply was "incoming"
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I'm sure as you were typing, you knew my reply was "incoming"
I knew Eventually something would be coming
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Like ET said, you need to specify load and span. Are these "boards" just going to lay flat on the floor, or are they going to span, or bridge, something. If just flat on the floor, compressive strength is all you have to worry about. If they are spanning some distance, then you need to be concerned with bending strength. We need more information to be able to do any intelligent design.
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Originally Posted by rwsr50
Like ET said, you need to specify load and span. Are these "boards" just going to lay flat on the floor, or are they going to span, or bridge, something. If just flat on the floor, compressive strength is all you have to worry about. If they are spanning some distance, then you need to be concerned with bending strength. We need more information to be able to do any intelligent design.
No, they are going to be flat on the floor.
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Now we're making progress! Without seeing the lift you are trying to get it on, it's tuff to picture what you are trying to accomplish. Seems like four short ones, one for each wheel and built like theadmiral's, would do the trick and be a lot cheaper, lighter, more portable, and easier to manipulate than 12 foot long ones, unless you have a part of the lift you have to clear and get over before the car is in position.
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How about making the ramps out of double stacked 2" x 10" then drilling some holes to make them lighter
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Mark, why not just get the 2 x 12's? You said you need 3 inches. Just lay the 1st one down, cut the second one 12" shorter, screw them together and be done with it. Of course you want to cut the ends on a 45 degree angle. You should be able to slide them out of the way when you are done. How's that for "INTELLIGENT DESIGN"?
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