Originally Posted by Dantas

I happen to think the seat belt law is unfair though. Is this Communist China? I don't need anyone to tell me what I need to do to keep me safe. I have insurance to cover me should I get hurt or killed so I don't understand the whole click it or ticket deal at all. Thats the rules though so your either gonna play or your gonna pay.

Originally Posted by '04 Z06 Rocket

Oh yea,,, Back - in - the - day..............

Can't you think of some other remotely possible thing to say? Why would a cop have to do anywhere near 110 mph to catch up to someone doing "4 over"? If the speed limit is 55 and your doing "59" (is that before you see the officer or after when you automatically lift your right foot and tap the brakes before looking down at your speedo) why would they have to double your speed? It doesn't make sense, and is just a lame bash.

Originally Posted by '04 Z06 Rocket

Then when you get the ticket for stopping without a reason (careless driving) then you'll be back on here B****ING again about how UNFAIR things are in your town, or how the rookies pick on you.

Me no lookey so you must be lying officer....

Originally Posted by '04 Z06 Rocket

Oh yea,, here's a GREAT idea. Challenge the "reckless cops who will do anything and everything to stop me, even drive mach 25 when I'm doing 1mph over the limit when I didn't see the sign". I'm sure the few nights in jail you spend will be worth the lame attempt to outrun every cop around you. Hopefully you have prepaid legal or a huge savings account to pay for the lawyer you will need if you ever decide to try out your own suggestion.

Originally Posted by StoplightWarrior

Most (not all) cops are fvcking idiots.

Originally Posted by Dantas

Edit: On a side note jujst to let you know how I have been done, in the GN one night a friend of mine was driving and we see a hwy patrol up ahead in the ditch and had a radar detector on, i leaned over and checked the speedo 55, then the radar detector goes off and we get pulled over. He says we were doing 65, limit was 55 back then on the hwy. We asked to see his radar, he said "I've turned it off" I got that kind of crap all the time and I was nothing but nice and friendly to them when they would come to the window so maybe you can understand why I have some hard feelings toward the hwy patrol. Same patrolman, after I was in an accident in town (a drunk driver ran a red light and I hit her rear quarter panel), and the police came and all that and then let me drive the car to the body shop (headlight was out and fender was ripped off) , pulled me over and acted like I hit something and ran. You know he heard what was happening on the radio, he was just being a turd.

Originally Posted by Pewter Dream

This forum has always been professional and mature in the past................this is getting into character assasination and worse..........did a bunch of Honda steet-racers/drivers suddenly highjack OUR fourm???.......as a group, we need to be more loyal to each other and the ONE thing we have in common -- our passion for our Corvettes...........moderator ---- where are you???

Originally Posted by Tact

Idiots like StoplightWarrior are whats putting a hurt on this forum and society.

Originally Posted by Dantas

Back in the day we raced every weekend. Like 20-30 of us on the farm to market road, never ever ever had an accident or even came close. We had guys driving out full blown 9 second race cars out to the farm to market and had one guy trailer a dragster out. Most of the time everyone had been drinking some beers and we had a blast. So street racing can be relatively safe if everyone knows the deal and you hit a road less traveled with no homes on it. We have those for miles and miles of nothing. Ever raced back in reverse after running forward a 1/4?? WooHoo!!

disclaimer: Do Not Street Race cause it is against the law and you can lose your license and car.

Point being the penalty conbined with officers discretion is realy a bit unfair. I happen to think the seat belt law is unfair though. Is this Communist China? I don't need anyone to tell me what I need to do to keep me safe. I have insurance to cover me should I get hurt or killed so I don't understand the whole click it or ticket deal at all. Thats the rules though so your either gonna play or your gonna pay.

One thing that was mentioned earlier though was about police running 95-110mph weaving in and out of traffic just to catch up to and pull over a car that was running 4mph over the posted limit. This has happened to me several times and really gets my goat. Especially when they whip in behind you like a maniac. I've slammed on my brakes before when they've done that and cause them to swerve into the ditch to avoid me. I acted like nothing happened and suprized they had to go around me and motion me forward. (I did not get a ticket then, they knew they shouldn't be pulling that stuff) I've done the same on a motorcycle but thinking back it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do since i could have been seriously injured but what the heck, i was a bit ticked off at the irresponsibility toward the rest of the motoring world while trying so hard to catch me, 5 mph over the limit woohoo..

I understand some police just do their job and try to be polite but I must live in the part of the country that gets em just out of academy and they are mostly all overcocky turds, 90% are HWY Patrol. The few I know and get along with are the older police that aren't out to prove anything. If i'm in the wrong then hey, you got me, i'll pay the fine and move on but in the process when they feel it's OK to drive recklessly it makes me wonder what makes them any different?

Maybe some of you law enforment guys can enliten us. Are you taught it's ok to drive like a maniac to catch to someone who is just barely runnin gover the limit? I kid you not, the second day I had this vette (5 weeks ago) I was puled over for going 59 in a 55 on the main 4 lane hwy 1/8 mile passed the speed change sign from 65 to 55, still in the country but just inside the city limits, no houses, no businesses, nothing but a 4 lane hwy and cotton fields. I didn't even see the sign. Makes me wonder do you guys take any opportunity to pull someone over to check em out? What about pulling ppl over for a license plate light being out and it's not out. Just another excuse? Thats happened to me alot also. Makes us feel like it's just an abuse of power.

You can't outrun the radio but you can outrun the car with the radio and consequencly his los so by the time another officer blocks the road you've already turned off and no one knows abou it. Do not take this the wrong way folks. Running from the law is dead serious stuff and you can get into serious trouble not to mention hurt someone else so don't do it. It can be done though.

Originally Posted by StoplightWarrior

Most (not all) cops are fvcking idiots.

Originally Posted by Dantas

Back in the day we raced every weekend. Like 20-30 of us on the farm to market road, never ever ever had an accident or even came close. We had guys driving out full blown 9 second race cars out to the farm to market and had one guy trailer a dragster out. Most of the time everyone had been drinking some beers and we had a blast. So street racing can be relatively safe if everyone knows the deal and you hit a road less traveled with no homes on it. We have those for miles and miles of nothing. Ever raced back in reverse after running forward a 1/4?? WooHoo!!

disclaimer: Do Not Street Race cause it is against the law and you can lose your license and car.

Point being the penalty conbined with officers discretion is realy a bit unfair. I happen to think the seat belt law is unfair though. Is this Communist China? I don't need anyone to tell me what I need to do to keep me safe. I have insurance to cover me should I get hurt or killed so I don't understand the whole click it or ticket deal at all. Thats the rules though so your either gonna play or your gonna pay.

One thing that was mentioned earlier though was about police running 95-110mph weaving in and out of traffic just to catch up to and pull over a car that was running 4mph over the posted limit. This has happened to me several times and really gets my goat. Especially when they whip in behind you like a maniac. I've slammed on my brakes before when they've done that and cause them to swerve into the ditch to avoid me. I acted like nothing happened and suprized they had to go around me and motion me forward. (I did not get a ticket then, they knew they shouldn't be pulling that stuff) I've done the same on a motorcycle but thinking back it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do since i could have been seriously injured but what the heck, i was a bit ticked off at the irresponsibility toward the rest of the motoring world while trying so hard to catch me, 5 mph over the limit woohoo..

I understand some police just do their job and try to be polite but I must live in the part of the country that gets em just out of academy and they are mostly all overcocky turds, 90% are HWY Patrol. The few I know and get along with are the older police that aren't out to prove anything. If i'm in the wrong then hey, you got me, i'll pay the fine and move on but in the process when they feel it's OK to drive recklessly it makes me wonder what makes them any different?

Maybe some of you law enforment guys can enliten us. Are you taught it's ok to drive like a maniac to catch to someone who is just barely runnin gover the limit? I kid you not, the second day I had this vette (5 weeks ago) I was puled over for going 59 in a 55 on the main 4 lane hwy 1/8 mile passed the speed change sign from 65 to 55, still in the country but just inside the city limits, no houses, no businesses, nothing but a 4 lane hwy and cotton fields. I didn't even see the sign. Makes me wonder do you guys take any opportunity to pull someone over to check em out? What about pulling ppl over for a license plate light being out and it's not out. Just another excuse? Thats happened to me alot also. Makes us feel like it's just an abuse of power.

You can't outrun the radio but you can outrun the car with the radio and consequencly his los so by the time another officer blocks the road you've already turned off and no one knows abou it. Do not take this the wrong way folks. Running from the law is dead serious stuff and you can get into serious trouble not to mention hurt someone else so don't do it. It can be done though.

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Come on people, let's face the reality:

Cops say they're protecting society and you, but.......

When was the last time a cop protected you?

Every encounter I've ever had with the police has cost me an average of $200.

I understand we need law enforcement, but what kind of person takes a job that entails, for the most part, ruining people's days?

And, just to show our civilian stupidity, at the end of the "encounter," we reply with a "thank you sir."

Originally Posted by Pewter Dream

This forum has always been professional and mature in the past................this is getting into character assasination and worse..........did a bunch of Honda steet-racers/drivers suddenly highjack OUR fourm???.......as a group, we need to be more loyal to each other and the ONE thing we have in common -- our passion for our Corvettes...........moderator ---- where are you???

Originally Posted by iridelow

It's called, checking your honesty. The officer is much more likely to cut you a break if you are honest. If you violated the law, MOST of the time you know it, and so does the officer. When you say, "I don't know", the officer is very likely to give you a ticket, not just because you where speeding, but because you lied. Think about it. How many people get puuled over and don't know why? Sure it happens, tail light out or something like that, but MOST of the time, you know what you did, and guess what? So does the officer... Besides, most of the time, the first thing the driver says is "what I'd doooo"

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Based on that logic, I guess we should wear helmets while driving our cars as well? Safety first!

Interesting that cops don't wear seatbelts in their patrol cars.......

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Just as I said in my post, cops have to justify their job by saying that they "protect society" and "will someday save my wife and daughter." The fact of the matter is that, besides waiting for something to happen and filling out paperwork, the majority of a cop's job is costing people money.

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Come on people, let's face the reality:

Cops say they're protecting society and you, but.......

When was the last time a cop protected you?

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Every encounter I've ever had with the police has cost me an average of $200.

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Come on people, let's face the reality:

Cops say they're protecting society and you, but.......

When was the last time a cop protected you?

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

I understand we need law enforcement, but what kind of person takes a job that entails, for the most part, ruining people's days?

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

Just as I said in my post, cops have to justify their job by saying that they "protect society" and "will someday save my wife and daughter."

Originally Posted by TNT Vette

The fact of the matter is that, besides waiting for something to happen and filling out paperwork, the majority of a cop's job is costing people money.

Originally Posted by fdxpilot

For a professor, you sure sound like a moron; although you are a professor in CA, so I'm guessing you're of the liberal persuasion, and have been trained from birth to see the police as the enemy.

Originally Posted by fdxpilot

Gee, the last two times I have had any contact with cops on duty, it resulted in stolen cars being recovered, so I would have to say you're way off base. In 35 years of driving, I've only gotten one ticket that I didn't know I deserved, and that was for speeding even further over the limit than I actually was.



Then stop breaking the law.

For a professor, you sure sound like a moron; although you are a professor in CA, so I'm guessing you're of the liberal persuasion, and have been trained from birth to see the police as the enemy.