Stick vs.Automatic
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I'm thinking it would be the MN6. Six gears rather than 4 provides better gearing to the acceleration. The driver in the MN6 will have to be able to shift well. I think the MN6 has more tourque as well for most years of C5s.
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St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
Originally Posted by INTRUBL
The red one.
It's a drivers race, but the MN6 driver better be able to shift like a pro, it's hard to beat the computer shifting the A4.
To hard to tell by how much either car would win, too many unknown factors, track, drivers etc...
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St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
Originally Posted by Silver98
Since there is more drivetrain loss with the A4, i'm betting the MN6. All things being equal.
if all things are equal the MN6 would win, but probably not by too much..they are pretty even stock vs stock
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My all stock 97 w/auto and 3.15s (me driving) vs my bro in a all stock 04 w/6spd and 3:42's. From a dig I get him by .5-1 cars. From a 30 mph start and now "downshifting" on my part he gets me by 1-2 car lengths.
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Originally Posted by sal caruso
Two stock C5s. One a six speed,one an auto with 3:15s option,who wins in a straight race? By how much? Any diffinitive answers? thanx,Sal
I betting on who is driving the car at the time
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From: Marion Ohio
Originally Posted by patrickboyle
Fallz is correct 
I've yet to find someone who can outshift an auto. This goes all the way back to my GTO drag racing days. NO ONE beat that car in a straight line. 
I've yet to find someone who can outshift an auto. This goes all the way back to my GTO drag racing days. NO ONE beat that car in a straight line. 
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From: Marion Ohio
Originally Posted by Fallz
Auto = Straight line
MN6 = Autocross
Nobody can shift faster than an auto.
Thats why drag cars use autos.
MN6 = Autocross
Nobody can shift faster than an auto.
Thats why drag cars use autos.
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From: Greer SC
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This is based on GM's data:
Axle........ 0-60 MPH..... 1/4 Mile
A4 3.15... 4.75 Sec...... 13.50 Sec
M6 3.42... 4.55 Sec...... 13.25 Sec
Keep in mind that the MN6 has the advantage of a 3.42 rear. Put the same rear in an A4 and the it is pretty much even.
The biggest variable is the driver. An A4 driver has an advantage that driver error is less likely. Although I don't run at the dragstrip, I see driver 'shift' error all the time when I race on a road course.
Axle........ 0-60 MPH..... 1/4 Mile
A4 3.15... 4.75 Sec...... 13.50 Sec
M6 3.42... 4.55 Sec...... 13.25 Sec
Keep in mind that the MN6 has the advantage of a 3.42 rear. Put the same rear in an A4 and the it is pretty much even.
The biggest variable is the driver. An A4 driver has an advantage that driver error is less likely. Although I don't run at the dragstrip, I see driver 'shift' error all the time when I race on a road course.
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This is based on GM's data:
Axle........ 0-60 MPH..... 1/4 Mile
A4 3.15... 4.75 Sec...... 13.50 Sec
M6 3.42... 4.55 Sec...... 13.25 Sec
Axle........ 0-60 MPH..... 1/4 Mile
A4 3.15... 4.75 Sec...... 13.50 Sec
M6 3.42... 4.55 Sec...... 13.25 Sec
The difference is only .25 sec. and .20 of that is in the 0-60 time so it all comes down to the 6 speed driver's ability. 9 times out of 10 your going to see the auto win.
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From: Greer SC
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Originally Posted by DrtyBrty
My all stock 97 w/auto and 3.15s (me driving) vs my bro in a all stock 04 w/6spd and 3:42's. From a dig I get him by .5-1 cars. From a 30 mph start and now "downshifting" on my part he gets me by 1-2 car lengths.
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Well, it seems the answer is obvious.
Anyone who owns a stick thinks the stick will win,
and the girls who own auto's think the auto will win.
j/k
Anyone who owns a stick thinks the stick will win,
and the girls who own auto's think the auto will win.
j/k
Last edited by Arnie Guitar; Sep 14, 2006 at 03:11 PM.
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Well, it seems the answer is obvious.
Anyone who owns a stick thinks the stick will win,
and the girls who owns auto's thinks the auto will win.
Anyone who owns a stick thinks the stick will win,
and the girls who owns auto's thinks the auto will win.
Opps! Forgot the stock part.