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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JLA
Sounds like.....
...Seems to say it all.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mqqn
Hi chai1836 -
Well the 2006 STI will not be cheaper than a 2001 vette - he loses right off the bat.
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Ahhhh ... the original post said ....

"I challenged a co-worker to find a car cheaper and faster (stock) than my stock Corvette, 2001 vert M6. He found the 2006 Subaru Impreza WRX STi that claims a .1 second faster 0-60 time and was a M6 and he compared it to an Automatic Vette."

His first problem is the "challenge" isn't well defined ....

By "cheaper" did the challenge mean "comparing original sticker price" ... or "comparing current market value" ... 'cause if it's current market value there are a ton of cars worth less than his 2001 Vette that are faster (like, say, a 1997 Dodge Viper with a bunch of miles on it).

By "faster" are we talking quarter mile ... top speed ... elapsed time around a particular race track ???

But putting that aside ... don't knock the Subaru folks .... it is (for the price) a very impressive car.

Base price WRX Sti Limited Edition .... $33,495.00
Base price C6 Corvette ................... $44,995.00

WRX .... 293 HP with All Wheel Drive
C6 .... 400 HP with Rear Wheel Drive

WRX curb weight .... 3,351 lbs
C6 curb weight ....... 3,179 lbs

The WRX in the hands of a good driver is scary fast. Keep the turbo spooled up and with all wheel drive they can be flat on the gas coming out of a corner long before you can in the Corvette. The WRX is a fast enough car that a race with a Vette is going to come down to driver skill more than the cars. A good driver in a WRX will beat an average Vette driver every single day of the week.

Some people can look down their nose at a "Subaru", but to me that's the same attitude as some Porsche (and other brand) people have .... "My Porsche is a better car than your Vette 'cause it says Porsche on it".

Respect what people bring to the table. I'd argue that most WRX buyers are smart people who understand the concept of "bang for buck" ... they're getting a lot of bang for their dollars. We love our cars, but don't diss folks who make different choices than we do.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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"I'm really disappointed by how ignorant and xenophobic many Corvette people insist on being."

UMMM..Doctor Smarty Pants has spoken. So it is written.

I hate it when I disappoint people.
...AND...I am not afaid of Xenon's!!
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Hi BlackZ06 -

Actually, most of the cars on autotrader are set to an ask of more than your base price, and these are for used 2006 WRX STI's.

The average 2001 Corvette (no attempt to discern model) was considerably less that the average 2006 STI WRX.

I like the WRX, and if it were an American made car I would be considering one.

Nice cars.

best regards -

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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you can buy a WRX, (Not STi) sold under a GM flag, if you can still find one... And its more adult looking.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Not considering the costs...it depends on the drivers and your definition of "faster".
- go to a tight autoX course and you'll get smoked by and elise larger track, vette wins. Some cars are great on the 1/4 mile but can't turn worth a flip. Just depends on what you mean by "faster"
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kale
So is the WRX.


Allred: The point of the car is that it's a sedan, and its built form-follows-function. What do you think it should look like? It needs that big fugly hood scoop to keep that intercooler supplied with fresh air.

WRX is a legend!!! How long has it been around? It is downright fugly!!
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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WRX is a legend!!! How long has it been around? It is downright fugly!!
Have you ever heard of WRC?
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The Vette is a sleek, sexy and alluring mistress. That is why I luv her....
The Subaru is butt.. I wouldn't be caught dead in a four door imho
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kale
Have you ever heard of WRC?
someone reallly hurt your feelings huh? being a good rally car does very little for STREET cred. the STI a legend in a different world. while there are some fast examples out there, it is no where near the point of deserving the kind of respect a corvette gets on the streets and at the track. I don't see how there is any way you can deny that.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by overBlown
someone reallly hurt your feelings huh? being a good rally car does very little for STREET cred. the STI a legend in a different world. while there are some fast examples out there, it is no where near the point of deserving the kind of respect a corvette gets on the streets and at the track. I don't see how there is any way you can deny that.
Honestly?

I like poking at the Corvette Owner Circle Jerk Club when I can. :


This is why I need to stay in OT and away from the floor mat sections.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Kale
Honestly?

I like poking at the Corvette Owner Circle Jerk Club when I can. :


This is why I need to stay in OT and away from the floor mat sections.
bye.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Funny, I just had a conversation with a co-worker about this same topic this morning.

I like the STi, but I love my vette.

I really could careless about the arguement, I just have the mindset that there will "ALWAYS" be a faster car than the next one, but at least I look good loosing.

Have fun guys!
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Not a fair comparison, should be M6 to M6. Besides at the end of the day, 0.1 to 60 wont beat you in the qtr mile and besides, its not a corvette, its an import.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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"Mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence." Yep. That about sums him up I'd say.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by overBlown
bye.
Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out. Go buy your WRX or Stupidaru or whatever you want. "I" don't want one or two or a dozen of em, and "I" don't care if it is faster on a rally course or a 1/4 mile course. "I" don't drive either. "I" drive mine because "I" love to drive it.

Sorry to see you go.....NOT!!! bye
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kale
Honestly?

I like poking at the Corvette Owner Circle Jerk Club when I can. :


This is why I need to stay in OT and away from the floor mat sections.
BYE
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Funny, I just had a conversation with a co-worker about this same topic this morning.

I like the STi, but I love my vette.

I really could careless about the arguement, I just have the mindset that there will "ALWAYS" be a faster car than the next one, but at least I look good loosing.

Have fun guys!
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by firecop90conv
Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out. Go buy your WRX or Stupidaru or whatever you want. "I" don't want one or two or a dozen of em, and "I" don't care if it is faster on a rally course or a 1/4 mile course. "I" don't drive either. "I" drive mine because "I" love to drive it.

Sorry to see you go.....NOT!!! bye

Welcome to the fun act of READING - This is a discussion about which is faster! If you don't care which is faster, why are you in this thread at all? To stroke egos with other people who think the Corvette is the only car in the world?

And yet there manage to be a few people still here in this thread that are real car enthusiasts, and can give respect where it's due.
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Originally Posted by Kale
Welcome to the fun act of READING - This is a discussion about which is faster! If you don't care which is faster, why are you in this thread at all? To stroke egos with other people who think the Corvette is the only car in the world?

And yet there manage to be a few people still here in this thread that are real car enthusiasts, and can give respect where it's due.
Your right, I didn't mention which I thought was faster...I would say that the stock VETTE from a roll and the it would be close from a dig, but the STi truly has the edge on that, because of the awd.

I really like the STi, think it is a cool little car and respect is often given by me when it is due. I just don't worry about it, because the truth is, if you dump enough money in something you still will have someone out there that is faster/quicker and so forth.
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