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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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I'm really interested in doing this up-grade. I want to thank Grandpa Bear for posting it, doing most of the leg work and proving us all of his information.

I cant see giving a vendor hard earned cash above and beyond what we can get the parts for less expensive somewhere else.

So far here is what I have found:

Local GM Chevy dealer prices:

1997-04 (C5) Right European Export Headlight, part# = 16524063, price at GM dealer = $148
1997-04 (C5) Left European Export Headlight, part# = 16524064, price at GM dealer = $148

Gene Culley will most likely beat this price!

I looked on the PIAA bulb website and there are tons of bulbs. What bulb matches the PAAS 90/135 watts bulbs listed in this post??

Grandpa Bear

Can you provide any information on the relays and or any of the other parts that we will need? If we order the wiring harness kit ($17.99) from Ecklers do you know if it is complete and comes with a wiring diagram? I know we need relays but hopefully we can find a good source for those also.

If anyone else has useful information on parts sources or conversion information,,please jump in.

Thanks a million!!

Bill Curlee

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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Just noticed that this was in the SCAN & TUNE Section. MODERATORS

Is there any way to put this in the Tech section???

Please???

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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Is this the page and item(s) you purchased?

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1140

What's the "right and left "rule the road" they mention?

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Dont buy LH rule of the road. They're dip left headlamps for UK

We drive on the correct side of the road so the headights need to dip the other way
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
I'm really interested in doing this up-grade. I want to thank Grandpa Bear for posting it, doing most of the leg work and proving us all of his information.

I cant see giving a vendor hard earned cash above and beyond what we can get the parts for less expensive somewhere else.

So far here is what I have found:

Local GM Chevy dealer prices:

1997-04 (C5) Right European Export Headlight, part# = 16524063, price at GM dealer = $148
1997-04 (C5) Left European Export Headlight, part# = 16524064, price at GM dealer = $148

Gene Culley will most likely beat this price!

I looked on the PIAA bulb website and there are tons of bulbs. What bulb matches the PAAS 90/135 watts bulbs listed in this post??

Grandpa Bear

Can you provide any information on the relays and or any of the other parts that we will need? If we order the wiring harness kit ($17.99) from Ecklers do you know if it is complete and comes with a wiring diagram? I know we need relays but hopefully we can find a good source for those also.

If anyone else has useful information on parts sources or conversion information,,please jump in.

Thanks a million!!

Bill Curlee
Bill,

PFYC have the harness and relay kit for this mod

Its a 135/90 dual filament bulb and the harness adapts the wiring to take the higher wattage. I have the T85s rather than T84s being in UK

For once I could help you out.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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BIll:

You can get the whole kit (plug and play) for $350 from pyfc.
(2) T84 glass headlights
(2) PIAA 90/135 bulbs
(2) High Wattage Harnesses

I am about to order the kit from them.
Let me know if you get a GP going. They may be interested in offering one.

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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It would be great to get C6 lighting on a C5 for reasonable price. I currently have the PIAA bulbs and althougth they are better than stock than are no where near the C6 lighting. Please let us know the results of you conversion.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Bear
The headlight kit was purchased from Ecklers for about $350.

The kit includes two new glass headlight assemblies to use the PAAS hi-lo single bulb headlamp, necessary wiring and two relays. The installation was a simple remove and replace. Wiring into the headlamp electrical circuit was exactly explained in the information kit provided. The relays gound to the battery negative terminal. The relays were mounted next to the battery.

The task in actual installation took two of us less than an hour, which included re-alignment of the headlamps.

Vast improvement in headlight power, equivalent to the HIDS without the costs involved. On low beam, the output appears (objectively speaking) twice that of the current USA version. On high beam the projection makes the roadway appear as daylight as no beam center is observed.

The bulb output reads 90/135 vs the US two bulb version at 60/80.

watts do not equal light output though.

whatever halogen that you have put in your car does not equal the c6 light output rating of 3200 lumens per bulb.

the most lumen output of a halogen bulb is going to be the HIR bulbs at 1700 for the low beams and 2500 for the high beams.

this is what true HID's look like on a C5:


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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 98taws6
BIll:

You can get the whole kit (plug and play) for $350 from pyfc.
(2) T84 glass headlights
(2) PIAA 90/135 bulbs
(2) High Wattage Harnesses

I am about to order the kit from them.
Let me know if you get a GP going. They may be interested in offering one.

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I don't see this listed on the PFYC website. You got a link?
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Here you go:

http://www.pfyc.com/pc/VT1003/VTLIGH...d+Options.html

it is (1) high wattage harness not 2
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I have the T84 headlight lenses with the wiring adapter form PFYC. I am running the regular wattage with PIAA super white bulbs. (By the way, the type of bulb used is a H4) The wiring connector is a plug n play. These lenses make world of difference. I now feel safe driving at night.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 98taws6
BIll:

You can get the whole kit (plug and play) for $350 from pyfc.
(2) T84 glass headlights
(2) PIAA 90/135 bulbs
(2) High Wattage Harnesses

I am about to order the kit from them.
Let me know if you get a GP going. They may be interested in offering one.

Rick
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Thanks a million for the info! I have done lots of business with PFYC in the past and was very successful with generaing a GP for Heated Seat kits. Had almost 30 people in the GP. They were very generous and gave us a great price.

I will contact them and see if they can hook us up on the EURO Light kit GP.

Thanks again and I will keep this post up-dated on the results of my GP efforts and what it will consist of.

Wish me luck

Im jumping in with both feet!

Bill Curlee
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Why not just do the HID conversion kit? It's a bulb swap only so you can reverse back when you sell or for whatever reason. NTRBL33 is a supporting vendor here and has been selling his kits like crazy. The kit contains everything and is plug n play and take about half hour to put in. The wattage is only 35 and blows away any other.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Whats the price of the HID kit compared to the EURO up-grade?


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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Whats the price of the HID kit compared to the EURO up-grade?


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Bill you can get a hid kit on ebay for ~150. That is going to be WAAAAY better than euro headlights. I first got euro headlights and wasnt happy and then added hids to them and it's the 2nd best mod I've done after long tubes
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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$150?????? Is that for the ENTIRE kit? The whole Kit and Kubootle??? A true HID Kit includes the fixtures/housings, ballast for the bulbs and the HID Bulbs.

If $150 is for the entire kit, that's a BONUS PLAN!

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Whats the price of the HID kit compared to the EURO up-grade?


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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1626608

$299. shipping included. This kit usually runs elsewhere for 4-500$ I wouldn't trust any kit on that famous auction site at those low ball prices. Davis Jones has sold over 40 of these kits for the C5 on this forum in the past month. He has a website banner DJ Motorsport under C5 Accessories. You should read the posts from satified customers..I'm one of them.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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There is a sticky at the top of C5 General for the St. Judes Auction item on NTRBL33's HID lights. There you go, bid and donate at the same time.
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Might as well give away the "secret"... Get Euro housings (all glass/metal w/ a far better cutoff, and better looks) then get an H4 HID kit.
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Just to bring this back from the dead....

But... these Euro housings only have ONE bulb right? They are a dual filament H4 bulb instead of separate 9005/6 bulbs? I am looking at HID kits and would like to know I am ordering the right thing.

I just ordered a set of these Euro Headlamps from Gene Culley and they were only 120 bucks a piece.

I am thinking this HID setup and I should be in business...
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I like that idea...

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