Well this makes sense on why you're so willing to blame the user's install procedure for the rattle. If you'd ever installed one yourself you'd realize it would be highly unlikely that install procedure would have anything to do with a rattle. I had a second gen unit and it rattled like crazy. I went over the install instructions several times and could find no fault with my install. MTI made good and traded me a first gen unit for my rattling second gen and now I have no rattle issue. I know from my experience the rattle is in the shifter not the install.

 

Didn't B&M come out with a new shifter? I was reading something about it and it looks very . Might be time to pull the "Rattler" out and try something from a reputable company for a change.
GOOD BYE MTI!!!

 

Keep us posted... I've been looking at the Hurst recently too....

 

I am not blaming anyone for anything. The only thing I pointed out was all my shifters were installed by the same folks that sell them. The only real variant in all of this is the installer.

 

I was with the technicians for each and every install. You can take my word for that!

 

Why don't you take someones advice on this thread and simply return to Hurst for a refund.

 

I just installed a B&M shifter a few days ago. MTI would not honor their 1 year warranty because they (MTI) didn't install the shifter. I'm very happy with B&M.

The B&M shifter puts the MTI shifter to shame both in workmanship and shifting.

 

You really think that's the reason why it rattles? Because the way we installed the shifter? Have you ever tried to install a shifter on a C5? It's 4 bolts and a gasket, there's nothing you can do to make the shifter rattle. The rattling is coming from internal parts that installers do not touch.

Also, this is what Reese@MTI wrote back in March this year,

"Thanks guys for the interest in the shifter.

As some of you know, development continues on the shifter in the quest for a near silent shifter with all the qualities we are looking for.

We have done some test cases and are happy with the results.

It will probably be two months until the latest version in ready however.

Until then we ask that everyone be patient and wait until we make a public announcement that the new assembly is ready.

To clear up a little confusion, the shifters that rattle tested well in cars we tried. It was only based on field testing that we released the solid billett assembly and some have had no problems.

We would NOT have released the shifter if it had problems.

In fact, we will be selling the billett assembly as a RACE only shifter as it works perfectly.

We'll keep you posted and again thanks for the support.

Reese *** - MTI Racing"

If they know for SURE that their shifters have no flaws and it's 100% the installer's error, do you think they'll take the shifters off their website, take the time research another version of the shifter and make this perfectly working shifter a "RACE" only shifter?

Like I said, I'm glad you had good luck in dealing with MTI, who knows, if I bought my shifter 3 months earlier and got the same version of the shifter as you did I'd be on your side right now. But please don't insult our intellegence by saying a rattling shifter is caused by installation error.

 

Noise is not related to the installation, except for the choice of **** and how it is installed, which is an important factor. However there have been people who had problems that were directly attributed to their installation (shifter not going into gear), in those cases it is about alignment; DIY is not for everyone.

As far as noise, the stiffer base box bushings of the Z06 are a factor, but many other factors are relatively independent of model, especially considering common modifications, let alone engine changes. The body structure, the engine, the exhaust, tire balance, shock damping, and the base box bushing stiffness are just some of the variables that affect the natural frequency and amplitude of vibration travelling through the shifter linkage and center beam. That is the source of the excitation and from there it's how the shifter responds to it.

Often times a simple screw-on ****, like a Hurst classic cue ball ****, solves the problem. The stock **** and aftermarket set-screw mounted ***** are not retained nearly as well, and therefore more prone to causing noise, especially if not locked down tight enough. But I've seen cars that use the stock ***** just fine. I've seen other cars that had noise at first and then it disappeared- obviously due to something wearing in. A lot of times it's about dimensional tolerances, which the factory worried less about as their two-piece design filtered out the vibration, although many new Z06's make noise. It is much harder to create a solid stick shifter that will be quiet across the board.

 

I have had each and every iteration of the Six Shooter, I have never experienced your abnormalities. I really don't mean to insult anyone I just wish to point out that one variable is installation which is an uncontrolled variable. Machine shop tolerances should be controllable and the type of car and installation are what is considered uncontrollable variances. If you have a poorly balanced flywheel for example that will create a huge amount of vibration and this is a variant the vendor can not control.
I wish you could see their attention to detail and how much interest they have in doing a good job. I know you can't see that and you see only your bad experience so I understand your feelings about the situation. As I said before we have to agree to disagree.

 

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Right, there could def. be alot of variables in each person's situation. But I went from a B&M shifter which didn't rattle at idle to a MTI shifter which rattles at idle right from the sec. I started the car after I installed it. So you can see where I'm coming from in my case.

 

I have asked for your help in the past.

How in the world could I install the 4 bolts wrong. The alignment was checked via the pin before I started. Like I mentioned, C-5 shifter, C-6 shifter, and the B&M shifter all work. But the MTI shifter will not go into reverse?

If I did install the shifter wrong, why didn't MTI help me. Poor customer service That's why.

 

I regret responding to you earlier because you have continued to try to hijack this thread. Your problem has nothing to do with the problems everyone else is here to discuss. And you already sold your shifter and had that thread get shut down for getting out of hand, get over it.

No one was standing over you to see what was going wrong, and there's only so much anyone can do for you over the phone. The simple fact is that the problem you had is due to improper alignment. We're talking about stock parts that obviously worked before, so the problem was not the part. Out of the 100+ units sold only one other guy that was completely clueless had a similar problem; the second buyer there quickly confirmed the shifter worked fine. A competent mechanic would have troubleshooted the problem until they clearly identified why it wasn't working right- the day they install it, not 5 months later. Instead you just want to yank it out, give it away, and relentlessly attack the product and company.

There are plenty of people that are very happy with this shifter and this company, your attacks are excessive. You found another shifter that worked out for you, but hey plenty of people can tell you bad things about that one too. But one day they get over it. Maybe one day soon you'll find something better to do too.

 

Well first, I will apologize to my fellow forum members if I hijacked your thread. You were the first to mention it.

Second, there are only so many alignments and only 4 bolts. I did identify the problem, I replaced the shifter.

Third, 1 month, 3 months or 5 months. MTI says one year warranty.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I also appreciate you pointing out that my attacks are excessive. I was just trying to point out facts that happened to me dealing with MTI.

Keep up the positive posts

 

Geeezzzzzz Folks....MOVE ON! Life is too short to rehash this over and over again!

 

...you cannot lead a dead horse to water and make it drink...