do you trust jack stands?
The first set I bought, when I was a teenager, were stamped steel, with simple 1/2" flat stock, steel, spot-welded between the base of each leg. Base not wide enough to insure not tipping(came close, never did) Junk. They never failed, but I would not trust such junk, today.
Even Harbor Freight stands, are safe, if you get the larger ones. Much stronger than the ones I described, above. Much heavier steel, wider base, bead welded, not a spot weld. I've used them for 20 years, no problems.





Yes - I trust the 4 that I have 100%.
I do not trust the stamped steel el cheapo variety, but the kind that I buy - with a cast iron ratcheting stanchion...? I trust
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I once jacked the car up as you see in the pic above and then proceeded to lift the front and set it on jack stands. When I looked back, the rear jack stands had been pushed back until they were tilted backward at a 30 deg. angle on their rear legs. The back end of the car was balanced on about 1/4" sq. in. of heavy gauge steel less than 1/8" thick. If I had just touched the front of the car it would have toppled over backwards.
I wanted to get a picture of this unique event but I was more worried about a breeze blowing the car off the stands so I quickly moved the jack to the rear and very gingerly jacked it off the stands. Once the weight of the car was off the rear stands they hung in mid-air for a moment and then slowly fell forward back onto their front legs. I went inside and changed my undies.
I swore that day that I'd get a lift ASAP. I got one last summer and it truly makes certain maintenance jobs a breeze. Even though it's not the answer to all one's lifting needs, it does make most jobs a lot safer and easier.
Just for kicks, I recently bought this air jack from Cosco. Works well although this one is not low enough for my vette - it works great on the other cars. Hook up the air, place it where you want it and push the button. This is definitely only for lifting. I would never leave the car supported only with this for more than a minute without stands and certainly never allow any body part under the car with only this holding it up. It is very quick and convenient, though, and is fun to use.


Last edited by Patches; Mar 24, 2007 at 09:25 AM.
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I use them again I will put the wheels under the frame
Now that I have a friend who has a lift, these dont see much use any more. Likely a good thing from what I have read here.
Placement is key. A few years ago I placed a Miata (yeah, ha ha... I know) on four jack stands AT the factory jacking points. I placed a phillips head screw driver on the plastic drain plug for the radiator and the nose of the car lifted off of the front stands with almost no effort, only the screw driver. After relocting the stands 2" back the pivot point was changed and the car wouldn't budge. It was freaky...
The bag jacks are great! I didn't know Costco carried them... Are they reasonably priced? I have one on my four poster and it is a great and secure way to lift the Vette. It would work great on a Kwiklift too. As Patches said, it is only for the lift and chock, not a platform to work on the vehicle.
They are perfect for a Vette oil change when attempting to get the remaining oil out of the pan; the rear can be lifted and lowered as needed to keep the oil flowing. Much faster than a floor or bottle jack.

I once jacked the car up as you see in the pic above and then proceeded to lift the front and set it on jack stands. When I looked back, the rear jack stands had been pushed back until they were tilted backward at a 30 deg. angle on their rear legs. The back end of the car was balanced on about 1/4" sq. in. of heavy gauge steel less than 1/8" thick. If I had just touched the front of the car it would have toppled over backwards.
I wanted to get a picture of this unique event but I was more worried about a breeze blowing the car off the stands so I quickly moved the jack to the rear and very gingerly jacked it off the stands. Once the weight of the car was off the rear stands they hung in mid-air for a moment and then slowly fell forward back onto their front legs. I went inside and changed my undies.
I swore that day that I'd get a lift ASAP. I got one last summer and it truly makes certain maintenance jobs a breeze. Even though it's not the answer to all one's lifting needs, it does make most jobs a lot safer and easier.
Just for kicks, I recently bought this air jack from Cosco. Works well although this one is not low enough for my vette - it works great on the other cars. Hook up the air, place it where you want it and push the button. This is definitely only for lifting. I would never leave the car supported only with this for more than a minute without stands and certainly never allow any body part under the car with only this holding it up. It is very quick and convenient, though, and is fun to use.
They are Norco 81222's. Rated for 22 tons each.
Made in the USA and complete OVERKILL
- Pin type support column adjusts to four different height positions.
- Adjustment pin is secured to stand to prevent loss.
- 12"-20" height
- Handle provides ease of positioning and carrying.
- 3/8" thick solid steel base plate for added stability.

Why go cheap when your life is depending on something.
But I still will use car ramps or something under the car just in case an earthquake or something unexpected.
I also had jackstands shift and cars fall (luckily I was not in harms way). The post that said they trust their hyd. jack obviously has never had one drift down or the cast iron hole where the round steel jack pad sits break suddenly. Also if you are going to use concrete blocks, which is not really a great idea, make sure the holes are on the top and bottom not to the side and use a board to spread the load. There have been lots of injuries reported from crushed blocks when they were used sideways. It is hard to tell if the block is about to crumble from being mishandled and when used sideways they have very little strength to begin with. Be safe, the life you save may be your own. 




















