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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mcgilles
if they make you feel ricer just order white ones, they will be whiter and cleaner looking than stock, draw less power, and your window and DIC controls wont be hot to the touch anymore!

they really aren't that bad, but here is my experience with them...the housings suck. they are too tight of a fit and when you try to twist them they break. if you ever put one in backwards good luck getting it out to rotate it. there is a simple solution, this is what I did. buy enough neo wedges for all of your controls. use a pair of needle nose pilers to remove the LED and tiny circuit board with the resistor out of it. do the same to your stock lights (follow instructions on spdkilz.com for pictures of how to use pliers to disassemble the lights) then install the new LED and resistor assemblies into the stock neo wedge bases. they fit right in. once you have done this they will fit like stock.

to me they are brighter than stock and I wouldn't want them any brigther. they really clean up the interior look and after the quick base swap plug in perfectly. trust me, don't even try to install them using the black bases provided. I still have a piece of one inside my hatch/fog lights switch assembly that I can't get out. sometimes when it falls into the wrong place, I can't push the hatch release button because the piece of the junk base is jammed in there.
That's what I was thinking. The blue and other colors give me that ricer feeling I see with civics around town (especially ones with neon lights under the car).

I have that spdkilz.com saved under my favorites as I came across it the other night and saw all the good instructions there.

That sounds like a good plan. The controls DO get hot so I guess replacing them does help.

Any photos of white LEDs? Everyone seems to post those blue/red LEDs photos.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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I installed the neo's I bought from Autolumination that are advertised as 30% brighter. I had the 3mm discreet leds w/resistors I built a year or so ago in there. These new ones are difinitely much brighter than the discreets I had in there! I was surprised!! JW is right about the housings they come in though. They were very tight but I didnt break any. The second one down in the drivers side wouldnt go in, not deep enough. So I'm going to de-base the neo's and put them in the stock housings like mcgilles suggested. Thats a good idea! I would like to put use these in my hvac as its not quite as bright as my radio. I took the blue film out of my radio so its brighter than my hvac. They are too expensive for my tastes but I do like the brightness.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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While LEDs versus stock;







I'm not sure what happened in this pic but the LED Radio on top is much better looking then this depicts;


Good discussion on the pitfalls of the NEOs bases, like Tom I never had a problem other then the depth issue in the Driver's Door switch. However it's been a few years since I messed with em. Now here's no thing you can do. Shaven 3mm installed in stock bases. this may be your best compromise;





Please check out jdmvette's Thread on his White LED install, there is an issue with the HVACs;

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...over-pics.html

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Thanks Tim. I like the first picture (door switch panel).

I don't want to spend a lot of money on this stuff and I think it'd be fun anyway to try to learn this. I noticed on the auction site you can get 100 white LEDs WITH resistors included for like $7 shipped..

But they are all 5mms. The first post only talks about neo wedges for the controls.

I probably won't do all the lights but I want to try doing the door switches now.

Do you know which ones might need 3mm instead of 5mm? Or can I just buy that 100 pack and be done with it?
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 03:55 AM
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5mms won't fit down in any of the bases and will be too long to properly seat in a few locations. Keep looking for 3mm White LEDs w/resistors. I can't believe there are none on Fleabay...

Also Gary did his Vette in White LEDs many moons ago, he's one of the pioneers in this area along with Carlton. I'm surprised his Silver Vette hasn't popped in here yet,I hope he's well.

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I do see 3mm ones, although not as cheap for some reason.

I have a question though, many of them have different MCD rating. From like 5000 to 20000.. which ones are better suited for interior lighting?
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I just did a blue LED conversion for someone and used the 5mm ones without the bases. Just soldered them in with the resistor inline. The only place they were too big was the HUD panel and I had to trim them smaller diameter wise. They were the $7 for 100 ones on ebay.

Don't forget to file the tops flat, don't let the top lens stay clear and rounded.
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Originally Posted by minitech
I just did a blue LED conversion for someone and used the 5mm ones without the bases. Just soldered them in with the resistor inline. The only place they were too big was the HUD panel and I had to trim them smaller diameter wise. They were the $7 for 100 ones on ebay.

Don't forget to file the tops flat, don't let the top lens stay clear and rounded.
Is it because the lights are focused in 1 direction (I think 20-25 degrees)?
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I've been following the questions by karateboi87. A way back in this thread are pictures of my vette's interior. I used the 3mm White LED's that have a 8000mcd rating. I have not shaved the tops of the LED's and have them placed in the bases so that the bottom of the LED is at the top of the base. I had posted pictures in a previous post of how I built the assembly.

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Originally Posted by karateboi87
You used neo's for radio, HVAC, and switches?

Care to share any photos? I'd appreciate it.
Yes, you need to file the tops so it disperses the light to a larger area. Here are a couple pics of the neo's used in my hvac. I use a 3 led strip behind the passenger word to cover it better.

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I havent tried the brightere neo's. They are too damn expensive. They are allot brighter though.
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Originally Posted by SilverC54me
I've been following the questions by karateboi87. A way back in this thread are pictures of my vette's interior. I used the 3mm White LED's that have a 8000mcd rating. I have not shaved the tops of the LED's and have them placed in the bases so that the bottom of the LED is at the top of the base. I had posted pictures in a previous post of how I built the assembly.

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I see.

I found the neo wedge ones a bit cheaper on e-bay. Under $2 per bulb. I'm hoping to find larger quantities because they are selling them in pairs and you got to pay another $1 per pair for shipping.

And I reread some of the posts in the thread and noticed some people have caused "a little smoke" in their circuitboards.. and I have absolutely NO experience in soldering. Maybe I'll stick to the neo's P&P idea
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Originally Posted by nascar57
Yes, you need to file the tops so it disperses the light to a larger area. Here are a couple pics of the neo's used in my hvac. I use a 3 led strip behind the passenger word to cover it better.

I havent tried the brightere neo's. They are too damn expensive. They are allot brighter though.
Are the 2nd and 3rd photo both neo LEDs? I'm asking this because the 2nd photo has some red while the 3rd is all blue.

But nevertheless, neo's don't look bad at all! Thanks for sharing photos.
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Yes they are... we refere to Tom as "Neolithic"!




BTW The smoked boards are 99% HVAC Power Supply boards, one shorted LED and *poof*...
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Originally Posted by tstar
Yes they are... we refere to Tom as "Neolithic"!




BTW The smoked boards are 99% HVAC Power Supply boards, one shorted LED and *poof*...
Yeah I don't plan on touching HVAC.. I think it looks fine. My biggest dislike are the door switches.
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Originally Posted by karateboi87
Yeah I don't plan on touching HVAC.. I think it looks fine. My biggest dislike are the door switches.

For the door switches use the Neo Wedge bulbs for plug and play.

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For the door switches use the Neo Wedge bulbs for plug and play.

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Yep. I ordered 3 pairs yesterday.

I also got my paint and brush.. Can't wait for the interior project to start
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Looking forward to seeing some pics of your work!

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Looking forward to seeing some pics of your work!

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It'll be a while. The 3 pairs I got were from the auction site.. and it'll probably be like 2 weeks for shipping

I bought them just to try them out. If they work well I'll replace the dimmer/HUDs too.

Hopefully I won't have too much trouble with pulling out the bulbs and fitting them in and stuff. The instructions say "unscrew it like a screw" or whatever, so I guess you just put a phillips head and turn it counter clock wise? If so I think I'll be fine.

I'm more excited about the painting bezel gauges though... I saw someone's post on it and it looks AWESOME.. I found the exact same paint at walmart. So the results should be similiar.
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Flat-tip screwdriver... 1/4 turn.

You mean Jason's Thread? Yeah the painted bezel rings look really good, I'll be doing the same some day. I like the way the UVs reflect of off it, it should match my damn purple faceplates!

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Flat-tip screwdriver... 1/4 turn.

You mean Jason's Thread? Yeah the painted bezel rings look really good, I'll be doing the same some day. I like the way the UVs reflect of off it, it should match my damn purple faceplates!

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I'm not sure whose thread it was. But in the photo we can see a paint's brand "FolkArt". That's the one I found at walmart for under $2.

You should do it. I normally don't even think about anything that "modifies" the car (as in can't return to stock) but I think it should have came stock painted like that. The color is like metallic silver or something.
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