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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Dude do some more detective work. 13k for LS6 with cam and headers installed???

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobby A
OK everyone stand by. From the responses it would seem that they are overcharging me.

The job I am having done is for a new LS6 with headers and a cam,



They know that I am an NYPD Detective and they have friends on the job whose cars they have worked on. My instincts about them tell me they are professional.


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UH... you are an NYPD detective and you don't smell a rat here? You need to pull out your Sherlock Holmes Spyglass and take a closer look.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Perfect time for an upgrade!!!! Which intake were you running?
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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I always heard the cost of living tends to be very high in NYC.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Guys, how can I smell a rat when I have NO IDEA what to expect. Thats why I am reaching out to the forum.

I don't expect you non LEO's to know my job. I would expect you to ask questions and I would then reply and assist you.

Thats why I am ASKING the forum. I am using a tool that I thought would be helpful. DO NOT even try to diminish my skills as a Detective. When it comes to having a major engine swap done I am sure that I am not alone in not having all the answers.

I did research new engines and saw some pricing. Not one seemed to be for a complete engine. Maybe I am wrong.

I researched Vette Doctors and heard and read nothing but TOP NOTCH things about them. If they are ripping me off it will hurt them more than it will hurt me. I don't believe they are. A company does not get high marks and praise from other forum members by ripping people off.

If anyone can offer sound and valuable insight, I welcome it.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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The engines in my above post are brand new complete GMPP with GM factory warranties. They also sell brand new short blocks for less.

I feel for you, you've been put in a difficult position. I would tell them to hold off until you have the time to gather more information. David

PS You might want to call your local dealers and ask what their prices are.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobby A
Guys, how can I smell a rat when I have NO IDEA what to expect. Thats why I am reaching out to the forum.

I don't expect you non LEO's to know my job. I would expect you to ask questions and I would then reply and assist you.

Thats why I am ASKING the forum. I am using a tool that I thought would be helpful. DO NOT even try to diminish my skills as a Detective. When it comes to having a major engine swap done I am sure that I am not alone in not having all the answers.

I did research new engines and saw some pricing. Not one seemed to be for a complete engine. Maybe I am wrong.

I researched Vette Doctors and heard and read nothing but TOP NOTCH things about them. If they are ripping me off it will hurt them more than it will hurt me. I don't believe they are. A company does not get high marks and praise from other forum members by ripping people off.

If anyone can offer sound and valuable insight, I welcome it.

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(LS6) New Goodwrench Engine 89017653
(LS6) New Goodwrench Engine 89017653
Click+here+for: Warranty info, Terms, $5,810.00
YOUR PRICE: $3,195.00
This is for new complete engine assy from GM, only thing you need is your oil pan and ls6 manifold
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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One thing to think about is getting your nephew to actually pay this much money- the fact is that most likely you will be stuck with this bill. 13,000 grand is big money especially for an 18 year old. I agree with the other members get a GM crate motor and a few of your friends that know what their doing.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Bobby,

alot of folks here are telling you that the price you've been quoted is high. That should tell ya something They are right....seems to be very high for an ls1 engine and install. They are just trying to help you out so you don't get screwed over.

sorry to hear about your car... good luck with the replacement/repairs
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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I might suggest you show Carmen this thread and do some brainstorming? I can tell you one thing for certain, once you leave the Vette Doctors it will be done professionally and correctly the first time around. Good Luck!
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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OK, for all the guys looking out for me I am saying Thanks!!

I just called Dennis at Vette Doctors and more or less have told them about the thread. He said he will be calling me back with the exact details and breakdown of what will be happening.

I reminded him of the great reputation of his shop and that I am sure they know what they are doing. However I need to know exactly what they are doing and charging me for. I have a feeling that I may have been a bit aloof about the details and thats my fault.

Lets see what they come back with.

*** If anyone knows Dennis or Carmine please chime in and possibly call on my behalf if you are more knowledgeable than I am.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Sounds a little high to me. And I would not just jump at the first shop to take my (nephews) money. After all, your not getting as screwed as your nephew is, if your giving him the bill. Also, what would a dealer charge, just for the sake of a comparison? Stock LS1 is NOT worth 13k. You can get a lot of motor for that kinda money!

good luck (tough spot to be in)
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Vette Doctors seem to have a very good reputation around here, I have always heard good things about them, so you've selected a good shop.
I would say though, that 9800 for a stock engine is high, something is not adding up...but we have not seen the breakdown of what you are getting for that, so when vettedoctors gets back to you , that will be interesting to see. I would at the very least call around to a few other good shops, maybe ECS or something and get a few quotes. This is a big job obviously, so I would take a bit more time and shop.

This forum is great, but as you have seen, (and with any public forum) it has no shortage of douchebags who like to behave like azzhats...just ignore.

Good luck and keep us posted on progress.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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So what are they charging for labor? I know they don't work for free. Hourly rate has got to be about $100/hr. They got to be charging $4000-$5000 my guess
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Hmmmm...I'm not seeing any reference to an insurance claim.

Perhaps VD is quoting high for insurance purposes and will actually
charge you less or let you slide for the balance and deductible?


And if you haven't made a claim, you should do so ASAP.
A $10K bill is exactly why we buy insurance.
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Originally Posted by Bobby A
OK, for all the guys looking out for me I am saying Thanks!!

I just called Dennis at Vette Doctors and more or less have told them about the thread. He said he will be calling me back with the exact details and breakdown of what will be happening.

I reminded him of the great reputation of his shop and that I am sure they know what they are doing. However I need to know exactly what they are doing and charging me for. I have a feeling that I may have been a bit aloof about the details and thats my fault.

Lets see what they come back with.

*** If anyone knows Dennis or Carmine please chime in and possibly call on my behalf if you are more knowledgeable than I am.

Bobby A

You don't need a complete motor, just a long block. All the sensors, intake, oil pan, water pump, brackets, etc ... are transferable to your new motor.

I sent you to a link for a very nice motor. You could add higher compression pistons if you are going to run naturally aspirated (N/A).

You should be spending no more than $10K with headers, install and tune. Add another $1.5K if you upgrade clutch.
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There is NO insurance claim. I am the only authorized driver on my policy. He took the car w/o permission or authority.

I am not filing a false claim.

For the person who inferred that I am taking my nephews money lightly I would refer him to my original thread and how it has been bothering me to do so and I have wrestled with it.

However, be advised, I was not driving the car when this event occurred and I am NOT paying for it. My sister is on board with this and my brother in law could give a rats azz about him.

Therefore, thats why I am in the position that I am in.

Not a comfortable one by any means. I am hoping nobody gets ripped off and a lesson is learned.

And I want my car back : )

Bobby A

PS No word yet from the shop
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this is a good one. Listen & learn
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Originally Posted by richb1616
One thing to think about is getting your nephew to actually pay this much money- the fact is that most likely you will be stuck with this bill.
I'm wondering if the nephew himself will actually be paying it... or will his parents end up paying for him (which might explain his irresponsible attitude to begin with).
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