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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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I'd like to hear some of the people who say you don't need the pucks chime in and say exactly why not, or how they avoid contact with the body panels. I had the guy I bought my car from, a Vette only dealer, tell me the same thing, that he didn't need or use them. He puts a lot of Vettes on his lift, so it was hard to argue with him, but fortunately we never got to the point of having to lift mine. (I had pucks along and would have insisted he use them.)

Even if the body panels don't get broken or cracked, if the lift is contacting them, it has to be at least scratching them. I know one thing for certain, it can't be doing them any good.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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For the cost of 4 hockey pucks and 4 eye bolts and nuts I will have piece of mind of knowing no punk kid is going to crack my rocker panels.

If they refuse they loose my business.
I usually take my wheels to them anyway. Nobody jacks up my car but me.
Knock on wood.

Don't waste your money on expensive pucks.
Save your money going the hockey puck route and do another mod.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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I purcahsed mine from Mid America. The box is from the Container Store, perfect fit. Store it one of the rear side storage areas.

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by egypt123
Apparently the BMW dealer got word of the Corvette tax. They're $14.95 now as opposed to $6.95.
Thats rediculous, thats higher than the machined aluminum ones, for that price I'd get the aluminum ones and put them in and take them out every time. I wouldn't pay that, I'm glad I bought mine when I did.

Originally Posted by rwsr50
I'd like to hear some of the people who say you don't need the pucks chime in and say exactly why not, or how they avoid contact with the body panels. I had the guy I bought my car from, a Vette only dealer, tell me the same thing, that he didn't need or use them. He puts a lot of Vettes on his lift, so it was hard to argue with him, but fortunately we never got to the point of having to lift mine. (I had pucks along and would have insisted he use them.)

Even if the body panels don't get broken or cracked, if the lift is contacting them, it has to be at least scratching them. I know one thing for certain, it can't be doing them any good.
I've never heard of anyone advocating lifting a C5 without using lifting pucks unless they lift from the frame or on a 4 post lift using the wheels, GM has recommended lifting spots and they didn'[t put those slots in the rocker for no reason. If a dealer or anyone else wanted to lift my car from the rockers without using the pucks I'd take my business elsewhere. I don't care how many times they say they have done it with no damage they will not lift my car that way.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Can somebody post a picture as to where and how they are mounted, please? I don't think mine are in the right spot
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 10U 99
I'm afraid had I requested they use the pucks and they laughed and refused I would take my business elsewhere.

cracked rockers don't heal by themselves.

I went to Discount Tire, once upon a time, and one of the mechanics "allegedly" scratched my car and broke an antenna off the car. I say "allegedly" because the manager told me that I had to prove that the mechanic broke it Now, if I have tire probs I go to a specialty Corvette shop where they use and provide jacking pucks all the way around the car.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4440stevesvette
i BOUGHT MINE SOMEWHERE ON EBAY. BLACK HI-TECK PLASTIC ONES THAT YOU JUST SNAP IN AND LEAVE THEM IN PLACE. THEY WORK GREAT. PRICE WAS ABOUT $28.00 PLUS SHIPPING.
Bought mine from Fleabay also. Used all four one time when getting tires, and two of 'em another time when working on brakes.

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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If you have frame savers installed on the rocker panels you can jack or lift the car up on those instead of pucks correct? and from personal experience you can get the car up on a two post without harming the rocker panels, you just have to make sure the lift has rubber pads and turn them so they fit in the spaces just inside the rocker panels so no weight is on the actual panel.

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gray-c5
I bought pucks because of the comments here at the forum. However, when I went to get a tire fixed at Discount tire, they laughed. They never use them. I offered to get them out so that they could jack up the car and they insisted on not using them. At any rate, they jacked the car up, and fixed the tire for free. No problem, no damage. So it seems that the jack pucks are yet another corvette dump @ss cost. A lot of hype to sell yet another useless item. I'm sure that they are nice to use, but not a necessity.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bvillezo6
If you have frame savers installed on the rocker panels you can jack or lift the car up on those instead of pucks correct? and from personal experience you can get the car up on a two post without harming the rocker panels, you just have to make sure the lift has rubber pads and turn them so they fit in the spaces just inside the rocker panels so no weight is on the actual panel.

Jim
Well, it's best to get the rocker savers that have jacking pads built in.
They aren't the cheapest way to go (~$150), but IMHO the best. The pads are always there and you've killed two birds with one stone.

Stephen
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Hockey pucks from Amazon.com are .99 cents. Why pay more?
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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Other things might be cheaper but I like knowing that the BMW pucks are installed and will not come out and are there for whenever I might need them.
In contrast to lots of other things the cost for that is not much.....my opinion.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 04 commemorative
Other things might be cheaper but I like knowing that the BMW pucks are installed and will not come out and are there for whenever I might need them.
In contrast to lots of other things the cost for that is not much.....my opinion.

Be carefull leaving the pucks in all the time.
A buddy of mine lost a puck and damaged the hole that they go in by scraping a speed bump.
Just a fyi
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fireman591
Be carefull leaving the pucks in all the time.
A buddy of mine lost a puck and damaged the hole that they go in by scraping a speed bump.
Just a fyi
noted...thanks,will be careful going over them.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by egypt123
Apparently the BMW dealer got word of the Corvette tax. They're $14.95 now as opposed to $6.95.
The dealer near me wants $15.76 + tax.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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The dealer near me wants $15.76 + tax.
worth it.....
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gray-c5
I bought pucks because of the comments here at the forum. However, when I went to get a tire fixed at Discount tire, they laughed. They never use them. I offered to get them out so that they could jack up the car and they insisted on not using them. At any rate, they jacked the car up, and fixed the tire for free. No problem, no damage. So it seems that the jack pucks are yet another corvette dump @ss cost. A lot of hype to sell yet another useless item. I'm sure that they are nice to use, but not a necessity.
Actually if you are using a lift they are required in the rear of the vehicle. They have a GM tool number and the correct versions can be purchased from SPX. They come with warning tags attached with short chains so the mechanics are reminded to remove them.

Don't believe what some tire jockey tells you. Here are the GM instructions from the Service Manual:

Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle
Caution
To help avoid personal injury, always use jack stands when you are working on or under any vehicle that is supported only by a jack.
Caution
To avoid any vehicle damage, serious personal injury or death when major components are removed from the vehicle and the vehicle is supported by a hoist, support the vehicle with jack stands at the opposite end from which the components are being removed.
Notice
When you are jacking or lifting a vehicle at the frame side rails or other prescribed lift points, be certain that the lift pads do not contact the catalytic converter, the brake pipes or the fuel lines. If such contact occurs, vehicle damage or unsatisfactory vehicle performance may result.
Before you begin any lifting procedure, be sure the vehicle is on a clean, hard, level surface. Be sure all the lifting equipment meets weight standards and is in good working order. Be sure all the vehicle loads are equally distributed and secure. If you are only supporting the vehicle at the frame side rails, make sure the lifting equipment does not put too much stress on or weaken the frame side rails.
If you use any other lifting methods than those called out, take special care not to damage the fuel tanks, the exhaust system or the underbody.
Notice
When you are jacking the vehicle at the front locations, be certain that the jack or the jack lift pad does not contact the front fascia, front fascia air dam, or the front fenders. If such contact occurs, vehicle damage may result. When jacking at selected front locations additional clearance may be required for the jacking points.

FIGURE Vehicle Lifting and Jacking Locations(c)


(1) Preferred Vehicle Jacking Locations
(2) Optional Vehicle Jacking Locations
(3) Frame Contact Hoist Locations, Optional Vehicle Jacking Locations
(4) Suspension Contact Hoist Locations

Vehicle Lifting -- Frame Contact Hoist
Tools Required
J 43625 Lift Pad Adapter “The Famous Hockey Puck”

Front Hoist Pads


Important
The front hoist pads must not contact the rocker panels, the front fenders, or the floor pan.
Position the (frame contact) front hoist pads as follows:
• Under or immediately forward of the front frame rail shipping slot reinforcements.
• The long sides of the hoist pads parallel to the frame rails.

Rear Hoist Pads

Important
• The rear hoist pads must not contact the rocker panels to the outside of the frame rail shipping slot reinforcements.
• The rear hoist pads must not contact the floor pan.
Install the J 43625 into the rear frame rail shipping slots, lock into place and position the rear hoist pads as follows:
• Under the J 43625 .
• The long sides of the hoist pads perpendicular to the J 43625 .

Vehicle Lifting -- Suspension Contact Hoist
Front Lift
Position the (suspension contact) front lift under the outer edge of the front suspension lower control arms.
Rear Lift
Position the (suspension contact) rear lift under the rear tire and wheel assemblies.

Vehicle Jacking
When you are lifting a vehicle with a vehicle jack or a service jack, block the wheels at the opposite end from which you are lifting. Use jack stands to provide additional support.
Under the Frame Rails -- Front


Important
Use only service jacks utilizing 64 mm (2½ inch) or smaller diameter lifting pads, to reduce the possibility of contact with undesired areas of the vehicle:
The service jack lift pad must not contact the front fenders, or the floor pan.
Position the service jack lift pad as follows:
Under the frame rail shipping slot reinforcements (1).
Under the Frame Rails -- Rear


Important
Use only service jacks utilizing 64 mm (2½ inch) or smaller diameter lifting pads, to reduce the possibility of contact with undesired areas of the vehicle:
The service jack lift pad must not contact the rocker panels, or the floor pan.
Position the service jack lift pad as follows:
Under the frame rail shipping slot reinforcements (2).

Under the Front Suspension Crossmember -- Preferred Front Location

Notice
When you are jacking the vehicle at the front locations, be certain that the jack or the jack lift pad does not contact the front fascia, front fascia air dam, or the front fenders. If such contact occurs, vehicle damage may result. When jacking at selected front locations additional clearance may be required for the jacking points.
Important
• The service jack lift pad must not come in contact with the engine oil pan (2) or the front suspension monoleaf spring.
• Carefully observe the following:
o Be sure to place a block or pad between the jack lift pad and the vehicle.
o Make sure the jack lift pad spans at least 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
o Lift only in the areas shown.
Position the service jack lift pad as follows:
• In the preferred location (3) if possible, spanning at least 2 of the suspension crossmember ribs (1).
• In the optional location (4) if necessary, spanning at least 2 of the suspension crossmember ribs (1).
Under the Front Suspension Crossmember -- Optional Front Location


Notice
When you are jacking the vehicle at the front locations, be certain that the jack or the jack lift pad does not contact the front fascia, front fascia air dam, or the front fenders. If such contact occurs, vehicle damage may result. When jacking at selected front locations additional clearance may be required for the jacking points.
Important
• The service jack lift pad must not come in contact with the front suspension monoleaf spring.
• Carefully observe the following:
o Be sure to place a block or pad between the jack lift pad and the vehicle.
o Make sure the jack lift pad spans at least 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
o Lift only in the areas shown.
Position the service jack lift pad as follows:
Spanning the 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
Under the Rear Suspension Crossmember


Important
• The service jack lift pad must not come in contact with the rear suspension monoleaf spring.
• Carefully observe the following:
o Be sure to place a block or pad between the jack lift pad and the vehicle.
o Make sure the jack lift pad spans at least 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
o Lift only in the areas shown.
Position the service jack lift pad as follows:
Spanning the 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).

Supporting the Vehicle with Jack Stands
Important
Do not place jack stands under the frame rails.
Under the Front Suspension Crossmember -- Preferred Front Location


Important
• The jack stand support pads must not come in contact with the engine oil pan (2) or the front suspension monoleaf spring.
• Carefully observe the following:
o Be sure to place a block or pad between the jack stand support pads and the vehicle.
o Make sure the jack stand support pads span at least 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
o Support only in the areas shown.
Position the jack stand support pads as follows:
• In the preferred location (3) if possible, spanning at least 2 of the suspension crossmember ribs (1).
• In the optional location (4) if necessary, spanning at least 2 of the suspension crossmember ribs (1).
Under the Front Suspension Crossmember -- Optional Front Location



Important
• The jack stand support pads must not come in contact with the front suspension monoleaf spring.
• Carefully observe the following:
o Be sure to place a block or pad between the jack stand support pads and the vehicle.
o Make sure the jack stand support pads span at least 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
o Support only in the areas shown.
Position the jack stand support pads as follows:
Spanning the 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
Under the Rear Suspension Crossmember


Important
• The jack stand lift pads must not come in contact with the rear suspension monoleaf spring.
• Carefully observe the following:
o Be sure to place a block or pad between the jack stand lift pads and the vehicle.
o Make sure the jack stand lift pads span at least 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).
o Support only in the areas shown.
Position the jack stand support pads as follows:
Spanning the 2 suspension crossmember ribs (1).

Hope this clears up some confusion. Hopefully, I pasted all the pictures in the correct places.

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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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4 Hockey Pucks from Scheels= $4.00
4 Eye Bolts & Nuts from Lowes= $4.00
Peace of Mind when jacking car= Priceless
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman591
Be carefull leaving the pucks in all the time.
A buddy of mine lost a puck and damaged the hole that they go in by scraping a speed bump.
Just a fyi
That had to be caused by one of the aluminum pucks, the BMW pucks are made of some kind of plastic, they only stick down less than 3/4" and are tapered so they couldn't catch on anything and even if they did somehow catch on something they would either snap right out or break they are only plastic, they couldn't really cause any damage to the hole. Thats one of the reasons I bought mine. They're convient, just snap them in and forget them, and when I bought mine they were cheap, but now that they cost more than the aluminum ones, I think I'd have to go with hockey pucks and take them out everytime, or go with the rocker savers with the built in jacking pad.



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