need intake recommendation!!!!!!
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '07
Here's a Callaway Honker for $350 shipped...http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-p...nd-shroud.html
Good seller too!
Good seller too!
someone buy mine!
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How is the Honker much different, other than changing the MAF location, from the Vortex. The concept seems exactly the same. The only issue I have, with either, is that one would think intake air, on both, would pick up radiator heat. Can anyone explain?
Ed
Ed
Drifting
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I gotta admit, that looks factory stock and it's exact same principle as Callaway and all the others. Why isn't everyone just doing this? I mean, you still need to cut the shroud with most of the aftermarket CAI's.......
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Not bashing anything here, just questioning.
Ed
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To my way of thinking, there are two advantages to a properly designed CAI. Number one would be keeping intake air at near ambient when stopped in order to keep timing from dialing back, while also allowing a very rapid cooldown to ambient once the car started to roll. Number two would be providing ambient air temperature at a pressure greater than a stock intake while moving. I know the Honkler, and Vortex, are good intakes, but I have a difficult time understanding how radiator heat wouldn't affect the intake air temperature while stopped.
Not bashing anything here, just questioning.
Ed
Not bashing anything here, just questioning.
Ed
-Alex
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According to my CAR Chip data logger results, while it is true that temps rise while sitting in traffic, the ramp-down of (intake air) temps after you begin moving is very, very rapid. My CAI mod helps in this regard by funneling the air at the intake filter via a polycarbonate scoop. The Flip-Tie mod doesn't have a scoop and won't allow any of that cold air to cool down the engine bay, which tends to get very hot during slo-moving conditions. As I mentioned previously, rubber and plastic parts, as well as electronics tend to die an early death when exposed to very high temps.
Drifting
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The Flip-Tie mod works almost exactly the same as the Callaway Honker. You gotta cut the shroud. There's no "scoop" on either one. So there's really no difference as far as cold air to cool down engine. The Flip-Tie mod is not hindering cooling air to engine in any way, as far as I can tell...............
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IMHO, unless you are installing a new intake as a first-step bridge to bigger mods (LT headers,supercharger,H/C swap) you really won't see any larger gains between intakes that you would spend big $$$$ on and a Z06 air box lid.
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
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IMHO, unless you are installing a new intake as a first-step bridge to bigger mods (LT headers,supercharger,H/C swap) you really won't see any larger gains between intakes that you would spend big $$$$ on and a Z06 air box lid.
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
-Alex
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Donaldson Blackwing
I really don't have a strong opinion on the subject. They're probably all pretty good. When I sent mine to Lingenfelter a few years ago the Blackwing was what they recommended. So I went with it.
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IMHO, unless you are installing a new intake as a first-step bridge to bigger mods (LT headers,supercharger,H/C swap) you really won't see any larger gains between intakes that you would spend big $$$$ on and a Z06 air box lid.
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
An intake is not a waste, people improve their ET and MPH at the 1/4 significantly with the Vararam. I personally improved .2 off my ET and +1 MPH over a Halltech Venom, everything else was the same (outside temp, 60', etc.)
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From plenty of dyno results I have seen on many different types of cars the between the exhaust and an intake the yields are far greater with an intake then an exhaust. However if you are talking about headers back, then that is completely different. But generally when people say "exhaust" it just means a catback so not really sure which you are referencing.
-Alex
-Alex
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The Flip-Tie mod works almost exactly the same as the Callaway Honker. You gotta cut the shroud. There's no "scoop" on either one. So there's really no difference as far as cold air to cool down engine. The Flip-Tie mod is not hindering cooling air to engine in any way, as far as I can tell...............
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IMHO, unless you are installing a new intake as a first-step bridge to bigger mods (LT headers,supercharger,H/C swap) you really won't see any larger gains between intakes that you would spend big $$$$ on and a Z06 air box lid.
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....
Believe it or not, a stock engine pretty much gets all the air it needs with a stock airbox. If you modify the intake without modifying the exhaust, you are wasting time and money....