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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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lmfao at the underpowered comment!!! some people have no clue. my 01 has never gotten outrun by any of my friends 02+ z06's or any of their c6's (non z) either. 01's rock just like the rest of the c5 z06's and are just as fast.
Yeah I have no clue. Why wouldnt you buy the newer better car for the same money? That makes no sense. 01s have less power and most had the oil consumption problems. A car with 20hp more is going to be faster then the same car with 20hp less. If you had equal drivers you would see the small difference. But like I said it may be small but you can get the 02+ for the same price so why not. I would rather have the 02+ and toss some headers and a tune on it and make 400+rwhp then having an 01 with the same mods and not make 400rwhp.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Another ? for you all. Did ALL of the 01s have an oil problem or just the earlier models? The vin# is 29765 which is pretty high.
If I recall wasn't the problem fixed?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Another ? for you all. Did ALL of the 01s have an oil problem or just the earlier models? The vin# is 29765 which is pretty high.
If I recall wasn't the problem fixed?
There was no problem. These kids are idiots on here. Beware.
They all read way too much.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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if you do intake and full exhaust with a tune onboth cars the end difference will be MAYBE 10 hp. because the only remaining difference will be minor cam adjustments and valvesprings. and you will always be able to get better deals on 01's than on 02-04's cause people consider them crap mainly due to people talkin like some people do on here.

its really sad cause all the 01 guys swear by the cars and the 02-04 guys just dont give them any credit. let me put it this way if you were placed in an 01 and then placed in an 02 and you had no way of knowing what was what, ill bet you everything i have you couldnt tell the difference between them.

and the oil consuption issue is so old to me. my car does not burn a drop and never had any warranty work done. but i personally know guys with 02z's that burn oil.

i love my 01z, nuff said.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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There was no problem. These kids are idiots on here. Beware.
They all read way too much.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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if you do intake and full exhaust with a tune onboth cars the end difference will be MAYBE 10 hp. because the only remaining difference will be minor cam adjustments and valvesprings. and you will always be able to get better deals on 01's than on 02-04's cause people consider them crap mainly due to people talkin like some people do on here.

its really sad cause all the 01 guys swear by the cars and the 02-04 guys just dont give them any credit. let me put it this way if you were placed in an 01 and then placed in an 02 and you had no way of knowing what was what, ill bet you everything i have you couldnt tell the difference between them.

and the oil consuption issue is so old to me. my car does not burn a drop and never had any warranty work done. but i personally know guys with 02z's that burn oil.

i love my 01z, nuff said.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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if you do intake and full exhaust with a tune onboth cars the end difference will be MAYBE 10 hp. because the only remaining difference will be minor cam adjustments and valvesprings. and you will always be able to get better deals on 01's than on 02-04's cause people consider them crap mainly due to people talkin like some people do on here.

its really sad cause all the 01 guys swear by the cars and the 02-04 guys just dont give them any credit. let me put it this way if you were placed in an 01 and then placed in an 02 and you had no way of knowing what was what, ill bet you everything i have you couldnt tell the difference between them.

and the oil consuption issue is so old to me. my car does not burn a drop and never had any warranty work done. but i personally know guys with 02z's that burn oil.

i love my 01z, nuff said.
Not the brightest one are you. The hp difference is still going to be 20hp unless you change out the cam. If the difference in the hp is from a different cam then changing exhaust and intake on both cars will not change that. I love how people get bitter because you happen to be talking about the year car they own. Just like the guys with the early build 07 Z06s are having problems with their lifters breaking and blowing engines.

The 01s did have oil consumption problems. Do a search on the forum. This isnt some made up story just to bring down the 01 Z06 owners.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Some '01's had oil consumption issues, but not all. I have heard the later produced '01's didn't. Mine was fixed, but it wasn't that bad. It burned maybe a quart in 3k miles. Just make sure when you get your oil changed that you have a full level before doing an oil consumption evaluation. Some places don't put the extra 1/2 quart in.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 03:42 AM
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If you plan on doing heads, cam and long tubes. You can throw the 20 hp from 02+ out the window.
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If you plan on changing the cam then I wouldnt worry about it. I dont know why these guys keep mentioning changing heads and exhaust. The difference is the cam.....so if you plan on doing bolt ons only then the 02+ is a better platform to start with. If you are going into the engine then I wouldnt worry about it so much. Although like I said earlier you can get a newer car with no worries of oil consumption problems for about the same price so unless you found a speedway white 01 Z06 why would you get an 01?
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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If you plan on changing the cam then I wouldnt worry about it. I dont know why these guys keep mentioning changing heads and exhaust. The difference is the cam.....so if you plan on doing bolt ons only then the 02+ is a better platform to start with. If you are going into the engine then I wouldnt worry about it so much. Although like I said earlier you can get a newer car with no worries of oil consumption problems for about the same price so unless you found a speedway white 01 Z06 why would you get an 01?


Actually, the difference started with the advancement of technology in catalytic converters. The engineers were able to eliminate the pre (PUP) cats. In turn they then opened up the intake to take in more air since the engine could now exhale better. The cam, valves, etc came next. I have heard racers state that the '01 has a better "seat of the pants" feel because of its cam profile. Either way, it would be a driver's race.

To the OP: The oil consumption argument is lame. It was primarily an issue experienced due to the way certain drivers cruised at higher RPMs than most others did. Keep shifting gears and you won't have a problem.

Unless you are willing to spend the money for an '03 or '04, you'll find problems with any '01 or '02. People rip the '01s for oil consumption and less power. Other people rip the '02s for issues with broken valve springs. As far as that goes, however, the '04s get criticized for having lower headliners and "pillows" in the interior.

The point should be that they are all great cars. Sure you want the best deal possible, but if you like the car don't let a price point of a couple thousand dollars make you walk away from it.

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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Actually, the difference started with the advancement of technology in catalytic converters. The engineers were able to eliminate the pre (PUP) cats. In turn they then opened up the intake to take in more air since the engine could now exhale better. The cam, valves, etc came next. I have heard racers state that the '01 has a better "seat of the pants" feel because of its cam profile. Either way, it would be a driver's race.

To the OP: The oil consumption argument is lame. It was primarily an issue experienced due to the way certain drivers cruised at higher RPMs than most others did. Keep shifting gears and you won't have a problem.

Unless you are willing to spend the money for an '03 or '04, you'll find problems with any '01 or '02. People rip the '01s for oil consumption and less power. Other people rip the '02s for issues with broken valve springs. As far as that goes, however, the '04s get criticized for having lower headliners and "pillows" in the interior.

The point should be that they are all great cars. Sure you want the best deal possible, but if you like the car don't let a price point of a couple thousand dollars make you walk away from it.

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^ I agree.

And to people bashing '01 cars.... do you really think any of us '01 owners are going to hate their cars because of petty words?

You are looking foolish among the people that know.

The truth is that all '01 LS1/LS6 engines got the same piston rings. You don't hear this amount of whining from f-body guys or base 'Vette guys.... ALL LSx engines will burn at least half a quart per 2-3k miles if the rpms are kept up. Period.

It's the first Z's that are run hard with grey haired guys complaining to get repairs after the rumor started... it's a shame to see this continue 8 years later.

I have an early '00 build Zo6 that has the original rings.... I burn about a quart per 3k miles.... because I drive it HARD when it leaves the garage on weekends.

The same usage as my late-build '02 Firehawk driven in the same manner.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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91k miles on my 2001 Z 06. Built 11/00 No oil consumption problems ever on it. Zero, nada, zip. Never had any engine work, never needed any engine work. Not even a broken valve spring which popped up on some 02's so I guess if you are concerned about the 01 you should skip the 02 as well.

As for the horsepower it is rated 20 hp less. I have driven both. Could I feel the difference? no. Would it be slower in a drag. Probably. On a road track. Well I am not ashamed to say that my talent stops way before my car does. I am neither a drag race nor road race professional. I drive my car on the street. On the street in normal conditions there is no difference in the cars.

The only down side to owning a 01 is that every time you post anything on it someone is going to put the car down. I guess some just feel the need to have a pecking order. Me I just drive the thing. 30k miles in the last year. Many that will post up on here to whine about the 01 have not driven their Z 06 since it was built as much as I have in the last year. Most are " hangar queens ".

At the end of the day you are buying a Z 06 Corvette. One of the most awesome cars ever made and certainly the best car for the money period. There is no down side to any choice here.
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Love my '01, first year of the Z06 and wouldn't have it any other way! Although I do have one slight problem, there is a distinct whistle coming from under the hood. Can't figure where it is coming from, but it still drives just fine!
LoL!
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Originally Posted by longrodlx
Not the brightest one are you. The hp difference is still going to be 20hp unless you change out the cam. If the difference in the hp is from a different cam then changing exhaust and intake on both cars will not change that. I love how people get bitter because you happen to be talking about the year car they own. Just like the guys with the early build 07 Z06s are having problems with their lifters breaking and blowing engines.

The 01s did have oil consumption problems. Do a search on the forum. This isnt some made up story just to bring down the 01 Z06 owners.
actually i think i am pretty well educated, but thanks. like i said if the air box and pre cats account for blank % of that 20 hp. and you change the intake and exhaust that 20 hp will become more like 5-10hp. once the cats and intake are dealt with the only remaining difference in hp would be from the minor cam adjustment.
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...uck!

after reading this i'm starting to have second thoughts spending 24 on an 01 z06 with 30,000 miles on it.

BUT it's speedway white....it's actually the one in my AV. Do i try to talk the dealership into something a bit lower? I've asked for a price out the door and didn't get a reply back to that question. So what should i offer?
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DUDE GET THAT CAR!!!
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Not the brightest one are you. The hp difference is still going to be 20hp unless you change out the cam. If the difference in the hp is from a different cam then changing exhaust and intake on both cars will not change that. I love how people get bitter because you happen to be talking about the year car they own. Just like the guys with the early build 07 Z06s are having problems with their lifters breaking and blowing engines.

The 01s did have oil consumption problems. Do a search on the forum. This isnt some made up story just to bring down the 01 Z06 owners.
Not true. And I had an 02 so I'm not biased. The airbox and pup cats were responsible for about half the difference. So when comparing a bolt-on 01 with a similarly modded bolt-on 02+ the difference will only be 10hp.
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...uck!

after reading this i'm starting to have second thoughts spending 24 on an 01 z06 with 30,000 miles on it.

BUT it's speedway white....it's actually the one in my AV. Do i try to talk the dealership into something a bit lower? I've asked for a price out the door and didn't get a reply back to that question. So what should i offer?
Speedway White is the rarest C5Zo6.

For what it's worth I paid 25.5k a few years ago for one with 43k miles.

Lots of people wouldn't pay 24, but for THAT color it becomes possible.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Well I pick her up tomorrow. Got the car for 21K. I still think with only 19K miles and the borla stingers and the shape the car is in, it is a good deal.
looks like I'll be hanging around here for a while. Thanks all!
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