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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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i've been told that " factory set " front end camber for performance reasons, tends to wear out on the inside of the front tires,(cupping).
also - you should set front camber to 0-0 degrees (straight up) to correct this - less very little performance loss. has anyone done this for the same reasons??? putting on new tires - thanks for the help.

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"Cupping" is not caused by camber setting or any other setting. It is the result of something wrong with the suspension. The factory camber settings will not cause uneven tire wear. I have put 47,000 miles on my car in the two years I've had it and have not experienced any abnormal tire wear using the factory specs.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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You also have to take into consideration if your car is lowered or not as the lower stance will cause cupping if not corrected. Also keep in mind some garage wheel alignment machines are old and over time they can be off by a percentage.
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Originally Posted by STALION
the lower stance will cause cupping if not corrected.
No, it won't. Again, cupping is not caused by alignment settings, it is the result of a mechanical problem.

Cups or scalloped dips appearing around the edge of the tread on one side or the other, almost always indicate worn (sometimes bent) suspension parts.

Inside or outside tire wear is referred to as feathering. If you lower the car a great deal an alignment may be required. My car is lowered all the way on stock bolts. I had the car aligned immediately after lowering using the factory non Z06 specs and have had no problems.
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No, it won't. Again, cupping is not caused by alignment settings, it is the result of a mechanical problem.

Cups or scalloped dips appearing around the edge of the tread on one side or the other, almost always indicate worn (sometimes bent) suspension parts.

Inside or outside tire wear is referred to as feathering. If you lower the car a great deal an alignment may be required. My car is lowered all the way on stock bolts. I had the car aligned immediately after lowering using the factory non Z06 specs and have had no problems.
Yes sir, you are correct. I put cupping, and feathering in the same category...but yes, cupping can come from old and worn suspension parts or even cheap compound tires.

At the end of the day, unless you track your car you will not need -/+ caster or camber. The garage should put the car as close to straight which isn't always what factory spec is.

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Originally Posted by STALION
At the end of the day, unless you track your car you will not need -/+ caster or camber. The garage should put the car as close to straight which isn't always what factory spec is.
I think you are confusing caster with toe. I'd suggest you take a minute and read through this for a better understanding.

http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html

I seriously doubt GM sent the C5's to the showroom floor with settings intended for the track only. As I said before, the factory settings will provide you with no tire wear problems and very nice street manners.
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Originally Posted by Mark C5
I think you are confusing caster with toe. I'd suggest you take a minute and read through this for a better understanding.

http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html

I seriously doubt GM sent the C5's to the showroom floor with settings intended for the track only. As I said before, the factory settings will provide you with no tire wear problems and very nice street manners.
No sir, that last sentence was meant for the OP.
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I said - the cars come from the factory set to enhance handling only - and my car has only 12,000 k on it w/ original tires. Nothing has been done to it. Just wondered if anyone has set it to +/- zero.
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Originally Posted by larrybee
I said - the cars come from the factory set to enhance handling only
Not exactly.

Originally Posted by larrybee
i've been told that " factory set " front end camber for performance reasons, tends to wear out on the inside of the front tires,(cupping).
And I was letting you know the information you had received was incorrect.
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thanks Mark c5 - the info i was speaking of (factory settings) was from a factory rep. type guy. i was just wanting to see if anyone has adjusted to straight - up and down, with the camber - thats all. thanks again.
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Yes,I have,and it works fine,it got rid of the inside wear on the front tires,they now wear evenly across the tire.
I probably gave up a bit in the handling department,but my Vette's a DD,and there aren't any curves between my house and my job.

It still does good enough for me on the mountain roads on the weekends,but I also don't push it to the limit-It's fine for me,and since it's my car,that's what matters
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Yes,I have,and it works fine,it got rid of the inside wear on the front tires,they now wear evenly across the tire.
I probably gave up a bit in the handling department,but my Vette's a DD,and there aren't any curves between my house and my job.

It still does good enough for me on the mountain roads on the weekends,but I also don't push it to the limit-It's fine for me,and since it's my car,that's what matters
thanks Carcass, thats what i needed to confirm - this guy told me about the factory settings and adjustments, actually worked at the factory in BG/KY. just wanted to cut down on the wear on new ones when installed. thanks.
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Originally Posted by larrybee
I said - the cars come from the factory set to enhance handling only - and my car has only 12,000 k on it w/ original tires. Nothing has been done to it. Just wondered if anyone has set it to +/- zero.
factory setting is for tire wear
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