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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Is the procedure for installing the CLB the same when you know the recalls have been done. I have a CLB from Houston but haven't installed it yet.

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Yes. You can install it after any recall work. The 2 mile thing will have been programmed in, but it shouldn't come into play. If you know a tuner, I'd have him remove the 2 mile limit. The module simply emulates the solenoid unlocking. When you install the clb, you disconnect the power to the solenoid once it's unlocked, and then plug the wire into the clb.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Dude, do you have insurance on your car? If so I assume you have this not only to abide by a state law but to protect you financially in the event of a unexpected event. I also assume you are paying the premium to afford you some peace of mind. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU NOT INVEST $50 TO INSURE YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR COLUMN LOCK UP, WHEN YOU KNOW IT IS AN ISSUE WITH C5 CARS! You have already had an issue. I would not leave my driveway in that car without a CLB installed. Act now for $50. or wait and pay the big bucks to re-act when it locks up.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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maybe because they are not required and are a waste of money if you keep your battery charged up correctly and battery has correct specs.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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maybe because they are not required and are a waste of money if you keep your battery charged up correctly and battery has correct specs.
Which battery would you use ???
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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This is entertaining! I could only image the banter about the Valve Spring Failures on 02 Z's and if everyone should change out their springs.

Yep - I kept my battery charged and Never had a problem. Insurance is for the dipsh#ts who can't drive, talk on the phone while driving, or text and drive. If you are competent you don't need it. It's a law because those who need it can't figure out on their own that they are a dipsh#t. Obvously, force majeure is not included in my statement.

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by XotiK ZO6
This is entertaining! I could only image the banter about the Valve Spring Failures on 02 Z's and if everyone should change out their springs.

Yep - I kept my battery charged and Never had a problem. Insurance is for the dipsh#ts who can't drive, talk on the phone while driving, or text and drive. If you are competent you don't need it. It's a law because those who need it can't figure out on their that they are a dipsh#t. Obvously, force majeure is not included in my statement.
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maybe because they are not required and are a waste of money if you keep your battery charged up correctly and battery has correct specs.
So you're saying that GM believed it was being prudent to develop multiple different "fixes" for a problem that was solely related to the charged state of a battery???? If the state of the battery is the responsibility of the owner, why would GM do this???? My car was at the dealership 3 times for this, each time it was covered by GM. I don't deny that the state of the battery can trigger problems in this car, but why a car would be so %$#@ sensitive to this is beyond all reason.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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So you're saying that GM believed it was being prudent to develop multiple different "fixes" for a problem that was solely related to the charged state of a battery???? If the state of the battery is the responsibility of the owner, why would GM do this???? My car was at the dealership 3 times for this, each time it was covered by GM. I don't deny that the state of the battery can trigger problems in this car, but why a car would be so %$#@ sensitive to this is beyond all reason.
The battery is one factor, not the main factor. The majority of the problems is failure of the solenoid. If GM admitted the system was defective, they would have a major recall and would have had to pay to replace the system in every single C5. Prudent owners go with the bypass and forget about it.

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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The CLB is one of the most discussed items on this forum. Over and over there are posts from people who knew it is an issue with C5 cars yet try to buck the odds and fail. Next they whine about being stranded, repair expense, etc.. Prudent they are not! At the least if offers an opportunity for the rest of us to say, "I told you so".
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Buggyman
The CLB is one of the most discussed items on this forum. Over and over there are posts from people who knew it is an issue with C5 cars yet try to buck the odds and fail. Next they whine about being stranded, repair expense, etc.. Prudent they are not! At the least if offers an opportunity for the rest of us to say, "I told you so".
......and remember, opinions are like A** Holes - we ALL have one ! The made me says this so please do not take offense
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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Wow! This thread is still rolling.

and thus, I have added to my post count.


Alternative Suggestion: Audible low voltage alarm and monitor, three or four spare batteries in the trunk for quick switch out.

Better solution is a flux capacitor with dilitheum crystals, but I digress into whimsical silly-ness.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Oil Apologist
Wow! This thread is still rolling.

and thus, I have added to my post count.


Alternative Suggestion: Audible low voltage alarm and monitor, three or four spare batteries in the trunk for quick switch out.

Better solution is a flux capacitor with dilitheum crystals, but I digress into whimsical silly-ness.
Beam me up Scotty - there is NO intelligent life down here.....
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEE-OH-6
Beam me up Scotty - there is NO intelligent life down here.....
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEE-OH-6
Beam me up Scotty - there is NO intelligent life down here.....
Hey zee, all joking aside, i would install the CLB for $50.00 bucks unless you want to baby sit your battery and hope when it does drop to a level that will trigger the colum lock your in your driveway and not 50 miles away takng a nice drive for the day. just my opinion on this matter. Your talking $50.00 bucks and a hour tops of your time for the piece of mind

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:10 PM
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I only base my opinion on the word and experience or two "world class" GM/Chevy techs and those I know who don't use CLB and yes there are some problems with the system but for most cases good delco battery or equal in specs will do and the system can lock even with a clb, this is a personal experience of a friend with one installed on car before problem happened so do what you feel is best for you is all I really am saying...to each their own.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1driver
I only base my opinion on the word and experience or two "world class" GM/Chevy techs and those I know who don't use CLB and yes there are some problems with the system but for most cases good delco battery or equal in specs will do and the system can lock even with a clb, this is a personal experience of a friend with one installed on car before problem happened so do what you feel is best for you is all I really am saying...to each their own.
I respect your opinion, and i am buy no means an expert. To me for the $50.00 buck i believe it lowers my odds on having a lock issue thats all,not to say it cant still happen you never know and hope i never find out. Also thanks for the video links i did learn something new

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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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I only base my opinion on the word and experience or two "world class" GM/Chevy techs and those I know who don't use CLB and yes there are some problems with the system but for most cases good delco battery or equal in specs will do and the system can lock even with a clb, this is a personal experience of a friend with one installed on car before problem happened so do what you feel is best for you is all I really am saying...to each their own.
system can't lock with a clb. The wires connected to the solenoid are unplugged when it is in the unlocked position, and then the clb is connected to the wires that are disconnected from the solenoid. That's like a light bulb turning on when it is sitting on the counter. You are discussing "opinion". I am giving you facts.

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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wildwall
system can't lock with a clb. The wires connected to the solenoid are unplugged when it is in the unlocked position, and then the clb is connected to the wires that are disconnected from the solenoid. That's like a light bulb turning on when it is sitting on the counter. You are discussing "opinion". I am giving you facts.
You must get a commission on these things, you're like a dog with bone. We get it... you think everyone should install one... hell if you had a Nissan you would add one there and 2 spare in the garage. Send one to Obama, it will fix the national debt - Have an incurable disease, no worries - here is a bypass! We get it.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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In the video I watched, the GM tech said the battery was the cause 80% of the time. If my calculations are correct, that leaves 20% ;-)

And FYI to the CLB nay sayers, I owned my Z for 3 days (not enough time for the CLB to come in from Houston) when my wife stopped in at a gas station for a coke. She came out to see "Service column lock". Don't tell me the battery was low after it started right up & drove 40 miles before the failure. Reserve capacity doesn't come in to play when the cars only been shut off for 2 minutes...
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