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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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I was changing my oil yesterday when I noticed some rust on thr frame rail under the battery box. Today I pulled the battery out and to my surprise my 10 month old Optima was leaking from the negative terminal. They exchanged the bad battery for a new one, no questions asked. I bought this battey specifically for the purpose of not leaking. Honestly, I didn't know they could leak. Now I,m left with a major clean up, I'm so disappointed with Optima batteries. Any tips or suggestions on how to do this the correct way would be appreciated.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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I am interested in this question myself. I have a Red Top and I thought they weren't supposed to leak.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Oh, no!!!!

Who would have guessed the mighty Red top can leak

The Red top is a waste of money at $169
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Has happened before:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...a-red-top.html
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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It wont make you feel any happier but the whole point of an Optima is that it's an absorbent glass mat battery. Unlike a lead acid battery the electrolyte is held by the mat in the battery. If the case cracks it'll still leak something; it's just less than traditional batteries. No consolation for you but it's rare.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Don't forget to neutralize the acid with baking soda when you're doing your clean up! I have a Red Top, I'll have to keep an eye out for this which I was hoping I would not have to do!
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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My recent research on Optima found they rely a bit too heavily on brand recognition for its own sake and reading about your misfortunes is consistent with this.

Based on installing a high-end audio system, my homework led me to the XS Power D3400. They make a smaller battery with side-posts that will fit the stock cables and screw-in terminals, but I needed the biggest battery that would fit the tray. The top-post D3400 fits in the stock tray almost too perfectly. The only caveat is you will have modify the cables and terminals to reach and fit the M6 top-side terminal screws.

http://4xspower.com/d3400/
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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I'm surprized too, I'll have a good look at mine before I store it.
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Originally Posted by Loby
I was changing my oil yesterday when I noticed some rust on thr frame rail under the battery box. Today I pulled the battery out and to my surprise my 10 month old Optima was leaking from the negative terminal. They exchanged the bad battery for a new one, no questions asked. I bought this battey specifically for the purpose of not leaking. Honestly, I didn't know they could leak. Now I,m left with a major clean up, I'm so disappointed with Optima batteries. Any tips or suggestions on how to do this the correct way would be appreciated.
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Sounds like you over tightened the battery stud. If I remember correctly, it only takes 11 in lbs of torque. Just snug. Of the 9-10 OPTIMA batteries I've had since the mid '80s, not one of them has ever leaked (or otherwise failed).
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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It's in the same boat as "printing 10,000 one dollar bills....
Some still come out fu*ked up...

To many judgmental people in the world....
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Clean up was easier than I thought it would be. I removed the lower inner fender and the plastic panel around the battery. That exposed the area very good. I took Naval jelly and a foam sanding pad to the surface rust and it cleaned up easily. I also used some baking soda. The leak was in the general area of the negative terminal but my eye sight isn't what it used to be. Guess its possible i over tightened it, first time for everything. Might have been a case leak above the negative terminal like in a previous thread. I dont know. I will be picking up an acid absorbing mat for under the battery asap. I just need to dry the area out and paint it and I'll be back on the road. What a pain in the A$$. I think its Miller time.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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No experience with them in cars, but the one I bought for my bike SUCKED. I got about 3 months out of it. POS.
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Originally Posted by kris6868
It's in the same boat as "printing 10,000 one dollar bills....
Some still come out fu*ked up...

To many judgmental people in the world....
I kind of understand where your going with the dollar bill theory....

However, no one is paying a dollar for the Red Top. As a matter of fact, most people are paying $160+

For that kind of money, the consumer should expect a superior battery where quality control is at the highest level.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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I bought a Red Top a few years ago for my Silverado and had to replace it in a few months because it wouldn't hold a charge. This will be my last Optima.
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Originally Posted by RaW Z06
I kind of understand where your going with the dollar bill theory....

However, no one is paying a dollar for the Red Top. As a matter of fact, most people are paying $160+

For that kind of money, the consumer should expect a superior battery where quality control is at the highest level.
I was only implying that yeah sometimes a Optima may be a defaulted battery...
But that’s where the free replacement comes into play...

An most I ever pay is 130 for a red top...

What other battery for anywhere around that price comes with a free 3 or 4 year free replacement?

Almost all others are prorated not a full free replacement..
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Originally Posted by kris6868
What other battery for anywhere around that price comes with a free 3 or 4 year free replacement?
Costco battery has 3 year free replacement + 100 month pro rated!! All for $67.50

Do the math......
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8+ years on my red top and still going strong. I like that math.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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8+ years on my red top and still going strong. I like that math.
I wouldn't expect anything less from a $160 battery.

Too bad everyone with a Red Top has a different story. More than enough people have documented problems.

Congratulations, you were lucky to get one of the good ones
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadget01
My recent research on Optima found they rely a bit too heavily on brand recognition for its own sake and reading about your misfortunes is consistent with this.

Based on installing a high-end audio system, my homework led me to the XS Power D3400. They make a smaller battery with side-posts that will fit the stock cables and screw-in terminals, but I needed the biggest battery that would fit the tray. The top-post D3400 fits in the stock tray almost too perfectly. The only caveat is you will have modify the cables and terminals to reach and fit the M6 top-side terminal screws.

http://4xspower.com/d3400/
Holy Sh*t!

$450 for a battery? Wow.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RaW Z06
I wouldn't expect anything less from a $160 battery.

Too bad everyone with a Red Top has a different story. More than enough people have documented problems.

Congratulations, you were lucky to get one of the good ones
I have a Red Top as well, it's always given me good service, but it's on a "Battery Minder" float charger almost all the time the Corvette sits in the garage, (which considering my failing health,) it's gonna be awhile, but this episode with a leaking terminal is gonna have me out in the garage and inspecting my own Optima Red Top this weekend. Mine is 6 years old. But even though I've had good luck with them, anything is possible. I bought mine because I too, wanted a battery less likely to leak. But I have heard that over tightening at the terminal connections is a good way to create a leak. 11 pounds torque is about right from I've been told. Si it's Tight, but not crushing tightening is the way to go !
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