[Z06] Cam and Header Question
Burning Brakes
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There are more of us out here than one may think..........I spent some quality time with the OP on the phone yesterday.
everyone has the ability to post and there are those guys that just can't believe we just want what we want AND NOT WHAT THEY HAVE.
What works for one does not work for EVERYONE...........some of us continue on our quest not to reach the pinnacle of excess, but have just enough to make us happy with our cars.
I'm not here to steal this thread, only to say that the OP has others out here looking at his thread so stay the course...
everyone has the ability to post and there are those guys that just can't believe we just want what we want AND NOT WHAT THEY HAVE.
What works for one does not work for EVERYONE...........some of us continue on our quest not to reach the pinnacle of excess, but have just enough to make us happy with our cars.
I'm not here to steal this thread, only to say that the OP has others out here looking at his thread so stay the course...
, just so many options...out there..If you think you have found your cam go on youtube and type it in, chances are someone is running it
Last edited by deadcafe; Oct 30, 2012 at 06:26 PM.
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Drifting
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Lol!! Never called my car fast by any means. Just a slow 11.27 @ 125 car. It was light hearted not an attack, just busting a lil chops. Gm puts the the rev limiter there for a reason so y not enjoy it is my point. Ur buick sounds like a straight line car and thats cool. But not what im all into. Just a 430whp/400trq cam bolt on z. Peak power @ 6500 on my 230/234 cam and i shift usually at 6700 or so. If ur all about bottom to mid power id do lg super pros, and maybe some thing like a 220/228 cam on a 112 +4 keep the dynamic compression high and throttle response and roll on power will be incredible . Id get in touch with some one like pat g ( i did) and discuss ur needs and he will spec u a cam perfectly.
The Buick is fun to slide straight or in curves...just mash the pedal wait approx 1 second for the boost to hit 20psi and it off to the tire shop!
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Drifting
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Not looking for the gas......older now and the bottle days are not in sight now.
So made a call to LG and spoke to them about a small cam... He suggested g5xe.....After talking to my buddy I'm now leaning on the bigger side of things. G5X3????? Any suggestions 112 or 114 cl?
What kind of drivablity with a cam of this size?
So made a call to LG and spoke to them about a small cam... He suggested g5xe.....After talking to my buddy I'm now leaning on the bigger side of things. G5X3????? Any suggestions 112 or 114 cl?
What kind of drivablity with a cam of this size?
Safety Car
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There are more of us out here than one may think..........I spent some quality time with the OP on the phone yesterday.
everyone has the ability to post and there are those guys that just can't believe we just want what we want AND NOT WHAT THEY HAVE.
What works for one does not work for EVERYONE...........some of us continue on our quest not to reach the pinnacle of excess, but have just enough to make us happy with our cars.
I'm not here to steal this thread, only to say that the OP has others out here looking at his thread so stay the course...
everyone has the ability to post and there are those guys that just can't believe we just want what we want AND NOT WHAT THEY HAVE.
What works for one does not work for EVERYONE...........some of us continue on our quest not to reach the pinnacle of excess, but have just enough to make us happy with our cars.
I'm not here to steal this thread, only to say that the OP has others out here looking at his thread so stay the course...
Burning Brakes
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If memory serves me right a g5x3 is rather large. Mid 230 intake/low 240s exhaust?? Ur gonna.sacrifice lower power for more mid-top end gains. I went through this whole cam delema a while back. Installed a cam, hated it due to loosing low end over stock cam. And went to my current 230/234 on eps intake lobes and comps new lxl exhaust lobe. Trq and power gains everywere and drives well. Very happy now
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Drifting
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If memory serves me right a g5x3 is rather large. Mid 230 intake/low 240s exhaust?? Ur gonna.sacrifice lower power for more mid-top end gains. I went through this whole cam delema a while back. Installed a cam, hated it due to loosing low end over stock cam. And went to my current 230/234 on eps intake lobes and comps new lxl exhaust lobe. Trq and power gains everywere and drives well. Very happy now
Forgot to mention heck If im going to install a cam $2000 worth then atleast get some exhaust note out of it.
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Instructor
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I say sell it and buy a ford focus... why own the car and never enjoy the full potential?? Thats like dating jessica alba but putting a bag over her head in the bedroom?? Just leave it stock and keep waxing it.. the rest of us will keep reving ours to 6800-7000rpms with our cams. End rant!!
Burning Brakes
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Id say g5x2 will better suite u, but ill still yank u down low with my cam. Im running a 112+4 on my lsa specifically to bring trq on quickly. Everybody who rides in my car cant believe how much low end and roll on power i have yet makes peak trq at 4700 and peak hp at 6500. My current cam has changed the way i view cams. Im a pat g believer!
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Burning Brakes
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Id say g5x2 will better suite u, but ill still yank u down low with my cam. Im running a 112+4 on my lsa specifically to bring trq on quickly. Everybody who rides in my car cant believe how much low end and roll on power i have yet makes peak trq at 4700 and peak hp at 6500. My current cam has changed the way i view cams. Im a pat g believer!
If I had it to do all over again I would have went with the MS4,or the Havoc .
Melting Slicks
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Burning Brakes
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LMAO!!! pry not
I bought the TSP package heads cam. Worth every penny. The problems came when I put the FAST 102 and the LS2 TB...Then she had issues, looking back I am sure it was the TB. 443rwhp 396rwrq tq was lower than I wasnted but I see RPM is pulling 400 qnd maybe a little more out of their similar sized cam.
pry notI bought the TSP package heads cam. Worth every penny. The problems came when I put the FAST 102 and the LS2 TB...Then she had issues, looking back I am sure it was the TB. 443rwhp 396rwrq tq was lower than I wasnted but I see RPM is pulling 400 qnd maybe a little more out of their similar sized cam.
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Burning Brakes
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Yeah, exactly - it only comes on at WOT. Doesn't at all sound like a good option for a car that "will never be tracked or raced", "is strictly a nice day street driver", and "will never see 6500 rpms". Obviously nitrous will produce more peak power and yield the faster car, but that's not the issue. A cam can produce added power all the time and at any throttle level.
I was going off the theory of how often are you really going to need all 420+rwhp? How often does that Mustang or what ever pull up next to you needing a spanking? annnnnd I like nitrous.
Melting Slicks
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The only place where a big cam will benefit over a medium cam is above 5000 rpms, and that's ok if you're going to use it. Just think about your intended use before you buy into all the hype.
Sounds like you are after some lope sound, Just put it on a smaller LSA and you'll gain low end and some cam chop. I suggest you contact someone who spec's custom cams who know these LS motors like Pat G, and he'll come up with something great for you, and it's not expensive.
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Drifting
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Ordered a set of 1 7/8 stainless works today. Decided to wait on the cam....will install the headers and vararam next Friday and get a tune.
If that doesnt do the trick I will then decide on the cam. Still a little undecided as to which cam.
If that doesnt do the trick I will then decide on the cam. Still a little undecided as to which cam.
Melting Slicks
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Quick tip: if you can have it done before your tune, I suggest getting your throttle body ported. I used Lingenfelter's mail service for ~$100, but there are other options as well. It should add a few ponies at higher rpm, and has no down side.
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Drifting
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You know how this works....headers are not here yet but got a good price on a TSP cam kit, headers installed, tuned for around $2200 so that being said.
What about the 228r on a 112lsa?
What about the 228r on a 112lsa?
Melting Slicks
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It's a proven cam with a lot of power under the curve. Probably a pretty good choice for your application. Do a YouTube search for "228r z06" for plenty of sound clips, if you haven't already.