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Old 06-02-2013, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1
100%.

Put the offender in jail, impose a stiff fine. Law breakers should get their due, but Nobody has the right to seize another persons personal property if it's not stolen. Where will it stop? Confiscate cars for drivers speeding, calling the person "a menace to society" therefore losing their car? All of this confiscated property adds up to quite a bit of $$$ for the county's kitty. These Gestapo tactics must stop.
The car was most likely purchased using money that was obtained through illegal activity. That makes the car subject to seizure as it was obtained illegally in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1
100%.

Put the offender in jail, impose a stiff fine. Law breakers should get their due, but Nobody has the right to seize another persons personal property if it's not stolen. Where will it stop? Confiscate cars for drivers speeding, calling the person "a menace to society" therefore losing their car? All of this confiscated property adds up to quite a bit of $$$ for the county's kitty. These Gestapo tactics must stop.
Remember that in some places they can seize your vehilce for street racing and crush it.

How would you like to continue making payments on something that was crushed and you no longer have.

Bet that one will really chap your hide.
Old 06-02-2013, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverback51
Remember that in some places they can seize your vehilce for street racing and crush it.
If that's true, what an incredible waste. They should auction the car and at least get something for it.
Old 06-02-2013, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverback51
Remember that in some places they can seize your vehilce for street racing and crush it.

How would you like to continue making payments on something that was crushed and you no longer have.

Bet that one will really chap your hide.

How would you like if someone street racing killed your friend or family? I have no problem with the police seizing cars used in Murder, drugs, and certain crimes that could cause physical harm to others. If you don't want your car seized, DON'T do the crime!
Old 06-02-2013, 11:51 AM
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Gotta say, that would be a really cool pic to see.....a C5 stopped by a C5 police car!! Would almost be worth the traffic fine to have your car in the pic.

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If that's true, what an incredible waste. They should auction the car and at least get something for it.
They're probably concerned that the new owner would just go out and do the same thing that got the car seized to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
The car was most likely purchased using money that was obtained through illegal activity. That makes the car subject to seizure as it was obtained illegally in the first place.
How do you know if it was the illegal money that purchased that car. He could have been a successful attorney and bought it before getting into drugs. Shouldn't they have to prove where the money came from and that would be so expensive on the part of the law that they wouldn't bother . No , it's easier to just take it like a bunch of thugs which is abuse of power. They say because it was used in a crime that it is fair game so why is it always high end property ? They wouldn't take it if the guy lived in a shack and drove a rusted Vega . This is not about justice it's about money . Their just as bad as the criminals by taking what they want.
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Originally Posted by cabech984
How would you like if someone street racing killed your friend or family? I have no problem with the police seizing cars used in Murder, drugs, and certain crimes that could cause physical harm to others. If you don't want your car seized, DON'T do the crime!
You will be singing a different tune if they stop you and drop a packet in your car while the other guy frisks you. Wake up people !
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Originally Posted by bj1k
How do you know if it was the illegal money that purchased that car. He could have been a successful attorney and bought it before getting into drugs. Shouldn't they have to prove where the money came from and that would be so expensive on the part of the law that they wouldn't bother . No , it's easier to just take it like a bunch of thugs which is abuse of power.
Law enforcement doesn't just confiscate things because they can. They have to have just and reasonable cause to do so. Without knowing the whole story we can't say if it's an abuse of power or not. Unless you plan on entering the drug trade you don't have anything to worry about.

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They say because it was used in a crime that it is fair game so why is it always high end property ? They wouldn't take it if the guy lived in a shack and drove a rusted Vega .
Low-end vehicles are confiscated too. They're just not used as "just say no" or similar law enforcement anti-drug advertising. The high-end cars draw more attention so they are put to good use.

Originally Posted by bj1k
This is not about justice it's about money . Their just as bad as the criminals by taking what they want.
They don't take what they want. They take what drug dealers and other criminals use to support their illegal activities.

Here's something that will really get your motor going. Here in Texas game wardens can confiscate everything you have with you if they catch you violating fish and game laws. This includes your fishing/hunting equipment, your boat, and the truck you used to pull the boat.
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Those coppers would have a hard time mounting one of those lightbars on a convertible!
Old 06-02-2013, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bj1k
You will be singing a different tune if they stop you and drop a packet in your car while the other guy frisks you. Wake up people !
Give me a break, every profession has its share of bad apples and that type of thinking about LEO's is just.
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Originally Posted by Rebel 1
Doesn't change the fact it's someones personal property. Just because "it's the law" doesn't make it right. And of course the govt. "gave itself the right" to "seize/steal" personal property did it not? Punish the offender with jail time, fines, etc. This escalating practice of confiscating personal property because "it's the law" is leading us down a dangerous path.
So is crime in general. Stop babying the criminals. Each of them knew the law, and the potential outcomes of engaging in criminal activity.
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Originally Posted by cabech984
How would you like if someone street racing killed your friend or family? I have no problem with the police seizing cars used in Murder, drugs, and certain crimes that could cause physical harm to others. If you don't want your car seized, DON'T do the crime!
I was making a statement of fact. Not saying I took either side of the arguement.

If I remember correctly, the story I read about this was up in Canada.
Old 06-02-2013, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
Heh... you guys would **** if you saw what they drive around here, and NO I am not kidding...



















Those are awesome and money well spent!

The flip side for the NAY-SAYRS here would be either the POLICE do this to the confiscated cars (Vette included) or put them in the Car CRUSHER like they do in California, when a car is confiscated -

Me personally I like that they take them and transform them into on bad Police vehicle!

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Here in Portland Or you can lose your car for picking up a Hooker.It also doesn't matter what it is,car,boat,plane,ect,ect. if there are drugs involved, the city will take them and after a period of time will sell them at auction.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
They're probably concerned that the new owner would just go out and do the same thing that got the car seized to begin with.
I'm not following you. The perp loses the car whether it's confiscated and crushed, or if it's confiscated and sold to benefit the public. The difference is that the public derives no benefit from the former.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
Law enforcement doesn't just confiscate things because they can. They have to have just and reasonable cause to do so. Without knowing the whole story we can't say if it's an abuse of power or not. Unless you plan on entering the drug trade you don't have anything to worry about.


Low-end vehicles are confiscated too. They're just not used as "just say no" or similar law enforcement anti-drug advertising. The high-end cars draw more attention so they are put to good use.


They don't take what they want. They take what drug dealers and other criminals use to support their illegal activities.

Here's something that will really get your motor going. Here in Texas game wardens can confiscate everything you have with you if they catch you violating fish and game laws. This includes your fishing/hunting equipment, your boat, and the truck you used to pull the boat.
In your last statement you just reinforced what I have been telling you.
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Originally Posted by BlueAngelSAE
Give me a break, every profession has its share of bad apples and that type of thinking about LEO's is just.
It's only the bad apples that you have to worry about but it only takes once and maybe it will be you that they decide to use to raise the city coffers or some southern red neck town needing money.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
The car was most likely purchased using money that was obtained through illegal activity. That makes the car subject to seizure as it was obtained illegally in the first place.
"most likely" is not proof of anything. Is the govt. going to try to investigate whether or not the perp bought his ride with drug money? No, they will keep enjoying the flood of cash from confiscated property delivered to their coffers on a escalating basis.


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