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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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Hi guys, I have a 02 z06, looking into ordering some stuff for it and wanted some people's opinions, or personal gains with minimal bolt on mods. Currently, I have LG super pro 1 7/8 longtubes, offroad 3in xpipe, LG big 3 catback, and a Vararam B2 in my shopping cart, ready to order. I have seen a lot of people make 400 with setups typical to this one, however, i just read a thread where some guy only made like 370 with pretty much this exact setup, except the longtubes were the street versions. This is a pretty pricey setup, so I would be fairly upset if I didn't make 400 or a little more, with a proper tune of course. Any dyno numbers/track times with setups similar to this one would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Devin
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Unless you plan on doing heads and cam you are better to go with 1 3/4 headers and hi-flow cats.The factory cat back is fine.My 04 Z06 with headers and Vararam with conservative street tune dynoed at 374 rwhp. These cars dyno stock about 350-355.If anyone claims 400 rwhp from headers,cai and tune then they are on a very generous dyno or fudging the numbers.
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Originally Posted by CalF
Unless you plan on doing heads and cam you are better to go with 1 3/4 headers and hi-flow cats.The factory cat back is fine.My 04 Z06 with headers and Vararam with conservative street tune dynoed at 374 rwhp. These cars dyno stock about 350-355.If anyone claims 400 rwhp from headers,cai and tune then they are on a very generous dyno or fudging the numbers.
Thanks for the advice. May I ask why you recommend the 3/4 over the 7/8?
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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I would go with 7/8 if you want most power, but I would say 390 should be a good number to reach with bolt ons.
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Does LG make a 1 7/8" for the C5?
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Sorry, just seen they do. Wasn't an option when I got mine. I'd get the 1 7/8" leaves you room to grow later if you get more cubes. If not going to go bigger cubes later, the 1 3/4".

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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I would stick with 7/8, then your next mod should be a cam and springs. At 400whp it will still feel fast, dont forget these cars only way ~3100 lbs
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Intake/headers and a tune should put you aprox 380hp and nearly the same tq. You will need a cam to get up to or above 400hp NA
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Originally Posted by RedZMonte
Intake/headers and a tune should put you aprox 380hp and nearly the same tq. You will need a cam to get up to or above 400hp NA
Are you referring to a CAI when you say intake or the actual intake manifold?
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Just dynoed my '04 Z06 only 2 weeks ago with 1-3/4" Long-Tubes, Catted X-Pipe, Vararam, Borla Axle-Back + Tune...

Put down 391/379 which I've been told is about standard for our cars. Getting to 400 with these mods is VERY rare.

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Halltech, 1 7/8" AR LT Headers with catted X pipe, and dyno tuned for mine; 386 WHP / 372 WTQ SAE
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Most guys I've spoken with say if you go 1 7/8 header instead of the 1 3/4 in a standard intake and exhaust LS6 bolt on car, you will be about 10whp and 10 torque shy of what it could have produced.
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I dynoed 365whp w/ a tune and vararam. I don't think headers will give me 35+whp, 25 maybe.

This is a mustang dyno
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Originally Posted by REVHARD
Most guys I've spoken with say if you go 1 7/8 header instead of the 1 3/4 in a standard intake and exhaust LS6 bolt on car, you will be about 10whp and 10 torque shy of what it could have produced.
So your saying the larger tubing is actually robbing power with the standard 'hardware'?
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Originally Posted by 93zder
So your saying the larger tubing is actually robbing power with the standard 'hardware'?
Short answer is yes,
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Originally Posted by 93zder
Are you referring to a CAI when you say intake or the actual intake manifold?
CAI=Cold Air Intake

that will be everything in front of the throttle body.. Air Filter, Air Bridge over radiator and coupler connecting to the TB.

larger Primary tubes on the LT headers will give you better power if you do a cam and/or ported heads. Stock cam/heads it will not gain anything... So it will be something you need to figure out what you want for your power goal and budget. If you are doing a cam then get the larger primaries, if you are keeping stock cam then get the smaller primaries.

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Originally Posted by 93zder
So your saying the larger tubing is actually robbing power with the standard 'hardware'?
Absolutely! The smaller 1 3/4 header helps keep the exhaust velocity on a standard 346ci. It has been proven time and time again that the 1 3/4 headers make more power then the larger 1 7/8...I believe they are good to mid 500whp then the 1 7/8 is appropriate exceeding that pwoer level. I don't know why people seem to disregard the professionals that produce the headers and/or the dyno results. The proof is on paper and the best tuners will advise you to go with the 1 3/4 unless it's a blower car or a large cube motor. The car just makes more hp and torque plain and simple.
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Slightly off the subject but I have to ask. Since this is a 2002, did you replace the valve springs? Sticky on the subject of 2002 valve springs failure.
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Originally Posted by REVHARD
Most guys I've spoken with say if you go 1 7/8 header instead of the 1 3/4 in a standard intake and exhaust LS6 bolt on car, you will be about 10whp and 10 torque shy of what it could have produced.
Nah, this doesn't hold water. Results are typically identical.

Look at the guy who just posted his dyno results above.

"Just dynoed my '04 Z06 only 2 weeks ago with 1-3/4" Long-Tubes, Catted X-Pipe, Vararam, Borla Axle-Back + Tune...

Put down 391/379 which I've been told is about standard for our cars. Getting to 400 with these mods is VERY rare."

From another thread -

Toque - "2004 Z06 here.

This is what I got with LG Pro Long tubes (1-3/4), Vararam, air bridge, B&B bullet cat back, and Dyno Tune.

To the REAR wheels - 390 HP, and 378.8."



My '04 put down 392/377 with 1 7/8 Kooks headers, no cats, Vararam, and tune. Pretty much identical and I've seen plenty of dyno threads over the years on this forum to back this.
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Originally Posted by JeremyGSU
Nah, this doesn't hold water. Results are typically identical.

Look at the guy who just posted his dyno results above.

"Just dynoed my '04 Z06 only 2 weeks ago with 1-3/4" Long-Tubes, Catted X-Pipe, Vararam, Borla Axle-Back + Tune...

Put down 391/379 which I've been told is about standard for our cars. Getting to 400 with these mods is VERY rare."

From another thread -

Toque - "2004 Z06 here.

This is what I got with LG Pro Long tubes (1-3/4), Vararam, air bridge, B&B bullet cat back, and Dyno Tune.

To the REAR wheels - 390 HP, and 378.8."



My '04 put down 392/377 with 1 7/8 Kooks headers, no cats, Vararam, and tune. Pretty much identical and I've seen plenty of dyno threads over the years on this forum to back this.
You want to see 400whp just go to a dynojet
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