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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Higrpwd
$6.70 for the Techron Plus at Amazon 20 oz
Wouldn't it be cheaper just to use gas with it in it?
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 05:29 PM
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You'll still need to do it most likely. I almost always use chevron 91, and while it might be our crappy CA gas, I still have to run 3-4 tankfuls of treatment thru occasionally.
The main problem Techron is supposed to cure (with regard to gas gauges) is caused by excess sulfur in the fuel: guess whose gas has less sulfur than anywhere else in the country?
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny71
Chevron & Texaco stations have all but disappeared here in the northeast. Shell 93.
The reason the Texaco stations are gone is that Shell bought them. Given that they're also doing joint-venture refinery operations, I doubt it matters.
Shell has their "V-Power" additive: the difference between it and Techron is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
The reason the Texaco stations are gone is that Shell bought them. Given that they're also doing joint-venture refinery operations, I doubt it matters.
Shell has their "V-Power" additive: the difference between it and Techron is left as an exercise for the reader.
You mean Shell bought the physical Texaco sites? AFAIK, Chevron merged/bought the Texaco corporation some time back, that's why their fuel has Techron (a proprietary Chevron additive) in it. I agree, the gasoline base stocks are all the same, but the additive packages vary a good deal between companies.

One of the problems with fuel gauge issues is either potentially caused, or aggravated by, all the myriad "boutique" seasonal fuel blends (summer/winter/ethanol content) mandated by various state laws around the country. It's crazy the number of blends nationwide.
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
The reason the Texaco stations are gone is that Shell bought them. Given that they're also doing joint-venture refinery operations, I doubt it matters.
Shell has their "V-Power" additive: the difference between it and Techron is left as an exercise for the reader.

February 8, 2002 Chevron Corporation merged with Texaco and Shell purchased Texaco's interest in the Equilon and Motiva joint ventures. Shell began converting its Texaco stations to the Shell brand the next year.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
You mean Shell bought the physical Texaco sites?
Yup. Not sure it was all of them (depending on region), but a good percentage.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
February 8, 2002 Chevron Corporation merged with Texaco and Shell purchased Texaco's interest in the Equilon and Motiva joint ventures. Shell began converting its Texaco stations to the Shell brand the next year.
Not sure what distinction you're trying to make here...I thought that was what I said.
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
Yup. Not sure it was all of them (depending on region), but a good percentage.
Obviously not even close to "all", as there are large numbers of Texaco stations all throughout (primarily) the Southern states. Hell, there's probably 50 or more just in Houston alone.

Point: people need to be made aware of as many options as possible, and Chevron/Texaco is one of the good ones.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Obviously not even close to "all", as there are large numbers of Texaco stations all throughout (primarily) the Southern states. Hell, there's probably 50 or more just in Houston alone.
So? It makes sense that there are Texaco stations in Texas...a pro hockey team, not so much.
(My original comment was prompted by someone noting the disappearance of Texaco stations in the northeast.)
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
So? It makes sense that there are Texaco stations in Texas...a pro hockey team, not so much.
I understand the lack of stations in the NE, however there are numerous locations throughout the southern region, like Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Florida, etc, pro hockey teams notwithstanding.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 09:10 AM
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I noticed most everyone that chimed in on this thread said they are using 91, and 93 octane fuel. Curious, cuz I use 87 in my stock mn6 c5, and have no problems. I use the lucas fuel sys. cleaner once or twice a year, but never run premium fuel because its just harder to burn. (and at least $.30 more a gallon) Maybe i'm the only stock LS1 driver to chime in.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by avigar
Does filling up with name brand premium gas such as Shell, BP, and Mobil regularly help avoid this problem? I'd hate to spend and use additives unnecessarily.

Well, not name brands. I heard the wizard speak recently, and I mean that with the highest of compliments. Check out toptiergas.com. See what you think.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by inauguralfbody
I noticed most everyone that chimed in on this thread said they are using 91, and 93 octane fuel. Curious, cuz I use 87 in my stock mn6 c5, and have no problems. I use the lucas fuel sys. cleaner once or twice a year, but never run premium fuel because its just harder to burn. (and at least $.30 more a gallon) Maybe i'm the only stock LS1 driver to chime in.


Using 87 is kinda like High Blood Pressure, It is the silent killer.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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Curious how the $5 saved on a fill up is worth the risk?
My SUV is rated for mid grade and the couple if times only 87 was available the mileage was noticeably lower. The manual says OK to run but with less power and mileage. And they weren't kidding.
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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I only run 93 and only Chevron or QT gas. I still use a bottle of supplemental Techron every 6-8 weeks as well.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
Using 87 is kinda like High Blood Pressure, It is the silent killer.
Silent? Not during summertime and your engine's under a heavy load. Sounds like BBs rattling around in a barrel.
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Originally Posted by inauguralfbody
I noticed most everyone that chimed in on this thread said they are using 91, and 93 octane fuel. Curious, cuz I use 87 in my stock mn6 c5, and have no problems. I use the lucas fuel sys. cleaner once or twice a year, but never run premium fuel because its just harder to burn. (and at least $.30 more a gallon) Maybe i'm the only stock LS1 driver to chime in.
This is not a personal attack, but this needs to be said.

Why in the world do you own a Corvette? If you are so penny conscious that you will run inferior gas in your car (assume you are using cheap oil and filters as well), then why own a sports car period?

You are losing performance, inviting ping, knock and detonation, and you will be replacing fuel system components at a lot earlier age than most. These cars and engines are not made for low octane fuel. A 10:1 compression engine should be burning at a minimum, 91 octane.

In addition, your pistons and heads are going to have a lot of carbon build up. Pistons will probably be pitted as well. Plan on your throttle body looking like the insides of a heavy smoker's lungs. Hope you have retarded the timing on the car.

Of course it is your car and you can do with it what you want, but if you ever decide to sell and I knew you were burning 87 octane gas, I would NEVER buy the car.

Perhaps these two articles will explain what you are potentially doing to your car:

http://www.contactmagazine.com/Issue...ineBasics.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/regular-or-premium

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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Very well said bikeriderga
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 02:52 PM
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Very well said bikeriderga

Thanks Mr. Bill..

Hopefully, he will do a complete fuel system clean, run something like GM Top Engine cleaner, and learn from the articles.

Hate to see someone destroy a fine sports car by not following the basic OEM recommendations!

Depending upon how long he has been doing this, he may have already caused irreparable damage, but not too late to stop the continued damage.
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