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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tandt
Some startup tests don't finish in time if you fire it right up and start moving the car (ever get the steering warming up message?)
Never, and I've had two C5's. And there's no problem since the LMC5 has been installed in my 2000 either, for way over a year now. I think this is all nonsense, and I would like to know where this came from.
Like I said before, my '99 which I had for 3 years started, and my current 2000 car, start within 1/2 second after turning the key and I've NEVER had any kind of problems whatsoever not waiting for the gauges to "cycle". Get in, turn the key, let it sit for a few seconds to build up oil pressure, and drive away, quite simple really.

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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Guenthner
Always wait for gauges to settle before starting!
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrlmd
Never, and I've had two C5's. And there's no problem since the LMC5 has been installed in my 2000 either, for way over a year now. I think this is all nonsense, and I would like to know where this came from.
Like I said before, my '99 which I had for 3 years started, and my current 2000 car, start within 1/2 second after turning the key and I've NEVER had any kind of problems whatsoever not waiting for the gauges to "cycle". Get in, turn the key, let it sit for a few seconds to build up oil pressure, and drive away, quite simple really.
With all the pages and pages of electronic issues with the C5 there might be something to it. Some folks will never have problems, but many do. You may just be a lucky one or someday you won't be. I have not had a single warning light or code since I started waiting for the cycle to finish. I did before.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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If you guys fell that doing this helps your cars in anyway than by all means continue to do so. Is this process strictly for a C5 or is it for all cars and trucks that have gages that sweep when you start the car? Other than this site I have never heard of this, and believe me take what you hear on here with a grain of salt so to speak. I have owned my corvette and several others cars and never had any reason to believe that I was doing any harm by not waiting for the gages to sweep. I own every mile that is on my car and never had a code because of not waiting for a sweep of the gages. Never an issue with start ups even after a long period of sitting

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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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Every PC, tablet, cellphone, GPS, computer I have takes time to power up. It would not hurt to let the onboard computer power up before firing up the motor and it may be beneficial.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Every PC, tablet, cellphone, GPS, computer I have takes time to power up. It would not hurt to let the onboard computer power up before firing up the motor and it may be beneficial.
Pure speculation!!!
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
Pure speculation!!!
Of course. Based on observation and logic. Does your PC start instantly? Is the computer on the C5 superior to every other computer driven device so it needs zero startup time? Maybe.
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Like I asked before, if this was a problem not doing it, or if it was beneficial in any way, wouldn't Chevy, the manufacturer of the car recommend it or tell you to do that? IMO this is all hogwash, but if you feel like you are accomplishing something, go right ahead and wait as long as you want, just don't deplete the battery doing it.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mrlmd
Like I asked before, if this was a problem not doing it, or if it was beneficial in any way, wouldn't Chevy, the manufacturer of the car recommend it or tell you to do that? IMO this is all hogwash, but if you feel like you are accomplishing something, go right ahead and wait as long as you want, just don't deplete the battery doing it.
Has GM acknowledged all the electronic issues with the Corvette? Did they make any recommendations to avoid them? Waiting for the gauges to cycle and the "Corvette by Chevrolet" to finish scrolling won't deplete your battery. Not to worry. I do it to save my starter motor. My car starts instantly when I wait. Takes longer when I get in and turn the key to start. That tells me something.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Of course. Based on observation and logic. Does your PC start instantly? Is the computer on the C5 superior to every other computer driven device so it needs zero startup time? Maybe.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Your car is not looking for Internet connections or antivirus scans that keeps your pc from turning on instantly.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
You are comparing apples to oranges. Your car is not looking for Internet connections or antivirus scans that keeps your pc from turning on instantly.
Of course not, but it must have other tasks to do before startup. Does it finish them all in a millisecond? Other computers take time to get ready to start.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Of course. Based on observation and logic. Does your PC start instantly? Is the computer on the C5 superior to every other computer driven device so it needs zero startup time? Maybe.
Slightly different perspective: does the PCM in the C5 ever shut off completely?
(Pretty sure the BCM doesn't, what with that 20ma current draw.)
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Of course not, but it must have other tasks to do before startup. Does it finish them all in a millisecond? Other computers take time to get ready to start.
No idea exactly how long it takes, but recall what I said in post #37: if the BCM and PCM aren't up and running, the starter relay won't trigger.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
No idea exactly how long it takes, but recall what I said in post #37: if the BCM and PCM aren't up and running, the starter relay won't trigger.
The C5 computer was designed in the 90s, the early years for computer controlled cars. These computers were primitive and slow by todays standards. Did they even know back then if you should wait to start or not? It was new territory and all the electronic issues with C5s show that. I don't know one way or the other. No one really does.






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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
The C5 computer was designed in the 90s, the early years for computer controlled cars. These computers were primitive and slow by todays standards.
It's all relative: "slow by today's standards" is still orders of magnitude faster than the electromechanical systems that the computer controls.
Microprocessors from the '70s and '80s were quite capable of reading and processing signal levels much faster than things like relays operate.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
It's all relative: "slow by today's standards" is still orders of magnitude faster than the electromechanical systems that the computer controls.
Microprocessors from the '70s and '80s were quite capable of reading and processing signal levels much faster than things like relays operate.
So you know for a fact that waiting for computer to finish gauge sweep on startup is not a good thing to do?
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I usually wait for the gauges sweep before starting. I have had the ABS Warming Up alert a couple of times, primarily if I start before gauge sweep. Usually goes away though after a few seconds.
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So you know for a fact that waiting for computer to finish gauge sweep on startup is not a good thing to do?
I know for a fact that it's harmless to wait, and never said/implied otherwise. Necessary or even desirable? Meh, not so much.
Waiting for the fuel system to pressurize is the only real rationale I've seen, but I doubt that takes anywhere near as long as the gauge sweep.
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I get in, clutch to the floor and fire that sucker up. No problem. I don't even think about any acceleration until the fluids warm to proper temperature. I think that's probably where most hose things. Hitting it hard too soon.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bikeriderga
I usually wait for the gauges sweep before starting. I have had the ABS Warming Up alert a couple of times, primarily if I start before gauge sweep. Usually goes away though after a few seconds.
I've seen it maybe 3-4 times in two years, always when I'm a block or two down the road, stays on maybe 5 seconds.
(Note that the owner's manual uses the word "normal" to describe that message and says that it's temperature-related.)
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