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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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Hear a lot about problems so want to here from never had a problem with the c l. By the way just ordered a lmc5 and the unlocker just incase.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvette99
Hear a lot about problems so want to here from never had a problem with the c l. By the way just ordered a lmc5 and the unlocker just incase.
Same here, no problems yet either but I'm prepared for it when and if it happens. Instructions and tools are in the trunk.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 04:37 PM
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Ok, I don't get it: you've already paid for the bloody thing, you're pretty much guaranteed to need to install it at an inconvenient time and place, and there's zero downside to having it installed.
So why is it sitting in your trunk?
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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Ok, I don't get it: you've already paid for the bloody thing, you're pretty much guaranteed to need to install it at an inconvenient time and place, and there's zero downside to having it installed.
So why is it sitting in your trunk?
I agree
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 06:17 PM
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If it ain't broke don't fix it
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
Ok, I don't get it: you've already paid for the bloody thing, you're pretty much guaranteed to need to install it at an inconvenient time and place, and there's zero downside to having it installed.
So why is it sitting in your trunk?
I like living on the edge.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvette99
If it ain't broke don't fix it
It IS broke you just haven't fixed it yet... neither did GM.

Sorry, I think broken is correct... I have such a hard time with getting that right... dang it.

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Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud
Ok, I don't get it: you've already paid for the bloody thing, you're pretty much guaranteed to need to install it at an inconvenient time and place, and there's zero downside to having it installed.
So why is it sitting in your trunk?
I agree. Makes no sense to me considering the problems the column lock is known to have.

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If it ain't broke don't fix it
Get back to us when it does break and you are in an inconvenient position to fix it.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 09:49 PM
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Yup it happened to me Monday on the alignment machine at a speed shop. What's worse I had a kit but it was at home instead of in the car. DOH !
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 10:22 PM
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Why not wait and have fun changing it in a dark alley at midnight or when leaving on a major trip or during the trip. So many opportunities.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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I have a 2002 base and the column doesn't lock.

Is that the way it was from the factory?
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 10:49 PM
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I sorry, yes it's a auto.

So it came from the factory with no column lock?
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
Why not wait and have fun changing it in a dark alley at midnight or when leaving on a major trip or during the trip. So many opportunities.
Well, if he's on a trip and doesn't mind taking a little extra time... 2 mph would be a great way to see lots of country.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 11:18 PM
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Yep and thank you.

That has been bugging me for a while now.
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Originally Posted by 73Corvette
Well, if he's on a trip and doesn't mind taking a little extra time... 2 mph would be a great way to see lots of country.
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Not exactly.

ALL C5's have the logic built into the BCM to issue an unlock command to the lock module that is under the plastic tupperware surrounding the steering column. The lock module retracts the pin (if you listen carefully when you insert the key into the ignition cylinder and just begin to turn it toward the ON position you will hear a soft bzzzzzt. That is the pin being retracted by the lock motor.

Same when you remove the key from the ignition, the BCM will send a lock command to the lock motor and the lock motor extends the lock pin. HOWEVER, the lock plate that would normally intercept the lock pin and lock the column is a small diameter plate that CANNOT intercept the lock pin on automatic trans C5's. Those cars were never eligible for the NHTSA forced column lock recall service. It is the GM recall service that screwed the pooch and causes all the problems that you read about on the Forum. The untouched system whether in a manual or automatic trans is generally fairly reliable. Not so with the recall modded system.

The BCM is the same on ALL the 2001 - 2004 C5's and the logic to operates the lock motor is hard wired into the BCM so you have a column locking system of sorts. It is just that the column in an automatic will never physically lock.

Aren't you glad you asked?
Thanks ...to be honest, I didn't know either. I mean i knew that 01 thru 04 Automatics didn't have that problem, but i thought it was because they did away with the locking system all together.
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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Hi all, quick question, when you install this, does it mean the column lock will no longer work on the car? Or is this mod to prevent the fail happening?
I have a 99 auto.. So I guess in the firing line for a fail at some point..
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 06:30 PM
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So my 99 mn6 still locks up before I put the key in (so I guess column lock still is active)...I've never had any problems with it yet (I know key word is yet). Should I go ahead and install this too? The steering column lock came on the dic for a while but once I changed the battery, it went away. Is it really a ticking time bomb waiting to happen? I assumed that it was good since it lasted this long. Go easy on me, somewhat new to this lol
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
The column never locks again after the LMC5 install.

If your car is a 99 automatic and the GM Recall service has been done then the column no longer locks with NO KEY in the ignition anyway.

On the automatics, if the recall service was done correctly (operative word "IF") then the worst that will happen is you will get error messages in the DIC. THe column will not lock because for the automatics the recall service installed a small diameter lock plate that prevents the lock pin from ever physically being able to lock the column. Messages tend to be bothersome to many but the car should still be driveable ( no 2mph fuel shutoff required on automatics), if/when the system fails. LMC5 in your case is piece of mind for the most part.
Thanks for this!
My column locks! So I'm going to order one now I reckon
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