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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 12:30 AM
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Prob would take away your rear view with the top up but...looks like it'd work. You'd have a little bit of cash in that piece though. Thickness of it would determine what you could and couldn't make it out of. If you wanted it thin and have some aero property to it, you may have to construct it a bit more creatively. If you built it out of dom or chromoly, getting that thin profile would be tough.
Pm me if interested in taking on the task. Think 2k could get it done?
I'm open to all materials as long as it has a professional finished appearance.
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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Default C5 Wide Body Design by request

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Increases track on front and rear, very wide tires can be used while maintaining the general lines of the C5. The only way to achieve this is with a near complete re-body of the car including custom rear bumper and door panels.

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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric02Vert
BASIC IDEA.

lower support Y beam parallel to chassis, shown as angled in
As long as you realize the front facing profile of the halo is going to be bulky if you do a 1 3/4 inner dom tube. Need to do a view of the halo as seen from the front windshield looking at the seats or from a right front quarter view. It's gonna have some thickness to it.

ON your C5Z widebody. The rear quarters and *** are definitely all C5R...that's what their approach was. For subtlety I think it's good, but it may be too subtle to make guys buy it. The front...there is a different approach to that that would be much better. Keep in mind though, what you've proposed on the widebody would be a 12k or more dollar kit being you included the door.

We come from two different generations though, so my take on a C5Z widebody approach is much different of course. I think there is market room for alternate widebodies without question, and I've considered producing molds several times but...it's a financial risk I'm not willing to take. I'm going to do one offs on my car, and if there is justifiable interest then I'll mold my stuff.

I have a myriad of products i know would sell to the Corvette market, but I'm done going solo in my life. Despite partnerships in my past being a hassle, it's the way to go.

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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RC000E
As long as you realize the front facing profile of the halo is going to be bulky if you do a 1 3/4 inner dom tube. Need to do a view of the halo as seen from the front windshield looking at the seats or from a right front quarter view. It's gonna have some thickness to it.

ON your C5Z widebody. The rear quarters and *** are definitely all C5R...that's what their approach was. For subtlety I think it's good, but it may be too subtle to make guys buy it. The front...there is a different approach to that that would be much better. Keep in mind though, what you've proposed on the widebody would be a 12k or more dollar kit being you included the door.

We come from two different generations though, so my take on a C5Z widebody approach is much different of course. I think there is market room for alternate widebodies without question, and I've considered producing molds several times but...it's a financial risk I'm not willing to take. I'm going to do one offs on my car, and if there is justifiable interest then I'll mold my stuff.

I have a myriad of products i know would sell to the Corvette market, but I'm done going solo in my life. Despite partnerships in my past being a hassle, it's the way to go.
RC, I'd definitely be open to use a smaller diameter tubing or even bar formed chromoly on the roll bar. Top to bottom thickness of the bar would be somewhere between 3.00 to 3.50" complete with casing. I think a bar like this should have some thickness. It would have a high quality look. The car is being done for show and street, I will never race it. I'm open to talk further about the idea.

Wide Body- I just draw this stuff, I never even looked at the C5R when drawing mine, how weird is that? For me I just like to see a uniform flowing line from panel to panel. The caravaggio kits cut it off at the door. When I look at it I don't see how a door panel could be excluded and make a smooth transition from panel to panel. The door handle and fuel door would likely also need modification as they would sit within a different curvature and angle. I agree with a previous post you had about the car itself. I couldn't imagine dumping 12-15k into a body kit for a 12-19yr old car. I tapped out at 8k for my body kit. Simply can't go higher than that. If I didn't have a friend doing this I wouldn't be able to do it. Update on that, he now wants to use carbon fiber. I haven't had a chance to talk further about it with him yet, but I would not argue carbon fiber vs fiberglass.

I'd love to see some of your designs or hear your ideas on things you would make. If I had your ability to actual make things, I'd be busy 24/7 working on my car. All I can do is draw whats in my head. I'm not in business, I just draw to see what could possibly be.

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Default Rough Diffuser Idea

Instead of cutting the original bumper and adding a diffuser, why not just add one to the existing bumper?

Secures with 3m tape all round (maybe a few bolts) and bolts on the bottom, Maybe beef up the rear fascia mounts.

This is a very rough idea, I have not really put much thought into. I had the idea so I whipped this up. The actual design aesthetically is rough.

I would think this would have the same effect as any other rear diffuser if the tines and design were done right. This piece would simply attach to the OEM rear bumper. The diffuser tines added support would also keep the bottom of the rear fascia from warping and aligned correctly. It could be made with a flat aero panel on the bottom as well. Just a rough idea I thought I'd throw out there
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric02Vert
Thanks Bro. I completely understand everything you said in this reply. At all the local meets it seems to be that way. One thing I've noticed is that many owners seem to go to bat for what mods they've done. If you don't have what they have, you are this or that. Almost as if the companies making their mods are paying them to endorse the product. I say, do what you want with your car, do it your way. No one else is going to drive it or polish it. Yes, I've taken quite a bit of heat for my "different" vision of the car, many people like it a lot and some don't. It won't change the outcome. I will get this car done one way or the other. We all can agree we are starting with one great platform for personalized expression I love seeing other peoples Vettes and ideas. If I don't have something nice to say, I generally won't say it. That's like meeting someone and saying Hi, Nice to meet you, your shirt is ugly.
Don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it! Guess we might have been the few who were taught manners growing up!

Hell, I got criticized for posting an accident I was in so don't feel bad!!! lol Can't wait to see the comments when my 2000 gets done with an aftermarket hood and bumper, and some nicely done flames!!! I'm sure there will be those who like it and those who don't! So long as I like it, that's all that should matter! The rude comments are certainly not needed nor warranted. Not like it was done to THEIR car!

Enjoy your baby and the hell with the rest of them!!
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CindysC5
Don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it! Guess we might have been the few who were taught manners growing up!

Hell, I got criticized for posting an accident I was in so don't feel bad!!! lol Can't wait to see the comments when my 2000 gets done with an aftermarket hood and bumper, and some nicely done flames!!! I'm sure there will be those who like it and those who don't! So long as I like it, that's all that should matter! The rude comments are certainly not needed nor warranted. Not like it was done to THEIR car!

Enjoy your baby and the hell with the rest of them!!
Thank you Cindy.

This thread has been up and down. On the design itself most agree it looks good and takes what is already there and enhances it. The renderings became points of scrutiny. Irrelevant points were launched against the renderings. Oh the wheels are too big. Blah blah. It isnt about the wheels shown for illustration at all. Most spats within this thread haved been smoothed over privately. Seems to me that many in the Vette world fear change, even if it is positive. I was even accused of being a business and Im not at all. Im just a schmoe with a Vette and a vision for it.Good luck with your car Cindy! Post pics if you can! Id love to see it.
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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Thank you Cindy.

This thread has been up and down. On the design itself most agree it looks good and takes what is already there and enhances it. The renderings became points of scrutiny. Irrelevant points were launched against the renderings. Oh the wheels are too big. Blah blah. It isnt about the wheels shown for illustration at all. Most spats within this thread haved been smoothed over privately. Seems to me that many in the Vette world fear change, even if it is positive. I was even accused of being a business and Im not at all. Im just a schmoe with a Vette and a vision for it.Good luck with your car Cindy! Post pics if you can! Id love to see it.
I get it Eric! Totally! I think too many in here with ADD and can't stick to the original reason for the post!
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Love the look, especially the nice job on the spoiler. BSM is a personal choice. Go with your gut..
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Thick skin sure helps here ????
Bravo!!!
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Bravo!!!
Come /on Cindy don't stir the pot again
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Originally Posted by akapounder
Come /on Cindy don't stir the pot again
Oh but I'm such a great cook!! I liked that quote so much I saved it for another place and time!!
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Oh but I'm such a great cook!! I liked that quote so much I saved it for another place and time!!

Somebody say great cook? I'm there
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I'd really love to do something like this but it may be technically impossible. It would also require fab work on the fenders and hood as the pop up headlights are eliminated and moved to the bumper. Although I like some aspects of the OEM bumper I think it could be much more and a bit lower looking in stock form. The bumper doesn't drag, it's the frame rails that drag. I wonder why they didn't bring the OEM bumper down some, at least more on the sides to tie in with the rocker panel line. That way they would still get adequate cooling through the front of the car. Anyways, Just for fun
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Originally Posted by Eric02Vert
FOR FUN

I'd really love to do something like this but it may be technically impossible. It would also require fab work on the fenders and hood as the pop up headlights are eliminated and moved to the bumper. Although I like some aspects of the OEM bumper I think it could be much more and a bit lower looking in stock form. The bumper doesn't drag, it's the frame rails that drag. I wonder why they didn't bring the OEM bumper down some, at least more on the sides to tie in with the rocker panel line. That way they would still get adequate cooling to through the front of the car. Anyways, Just for fun
I like this..! What if you retain the pop-up headlamps as well. C5, IMO must have popup headlamps. Thoughts?

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I like this..! What if you retain the pop-up headlamps as well. C5, IMO must have popup headlamps. Thoughts?
I don't mind the popups , I mind the maintenance to keep them working properly. Even with metal gears, one will stay down from time to time and require a love tap and so on

But yes, this could be done with pop up lights. I will do a version of that to see how it looks. One thing we all want to see is the front license plate debacle removed and made smooth. The headlights in the bumper is an idea I've had for awhile but it would require so much work and money that the value of the mod might not be worth it. This design with a pop up light would be extremely slick, might lack a bit of character. I will do it up though. Just for fun.


Also, this design takes away the brake cooling duct. If you are racing this would be a bad idea. But for show and regular street driving, wouldn't be an issue.
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Here is another version of the front end with relocated DRL lights and the fog bezel area blacked out. License plate area removed.( I know not street legal, put the plate under with the stow away plate? ) I like this look. Kinda storm trooperish.
Street legal in Arizona.
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FOR FUN

I'd really love to do something like this but it may be technically impossible. It would also require fab work on the fenders and hood as the pop up headlights are eliminated and moved to the bumper. Although I like some aspects of the OEM bumper I think it could be much more and a bit lower looking in stock form. The bumper doesn't drag, it's the frame rails that drag. I wonder why they didn't bring the OEM bumper down some, at least more on the sides to tie in with the rocker panel line. That way they would still get adequate cooling through the front of the car. Anyways, Just for fun
Looks mean !!!!!!!
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